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Replacing alternator

So I am going to be replacing my alternator this weekend (mine took a dump), and from what I have seen it will be impossible to remove it without pulling out the power steering.

Here is my question. Is it possible to complete without taking out the power steering? I have seen people say it is, but I simply cannot envision pulling the alternator out without that removed.

I am hoping for an easy switch on this (not what usually happens).

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Can I make a paperclip chain 6 km long?

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Re: Replacing alternator

Done it 3 times.

Much easier if you remove the pump. Like 15 minutes.

But...if you are determined not to mess with the pump it can be done.
If memory serves a 10, a 12 and a 14mm socket were used. And a bunch of differing ratchets. I used 1/4" for removing the tensioner with about a foot of extensions and a swivel on it somewhere. A 3/8" ratchet for the bottom bolt, the pivot bolt (14?) and 1/4" drive for the top bolt (just below the ps pump 12?). That one I broke loose with the ratchet and a deep well socket, then switched to a standard socket so my tools would come out.

Patience, patience, patience!!!

^^ these dudes helped...a lot.
Top bolt was much easier to remove using the 3/8" finger ratchet once it was broken loose.
The nut driver type handles make long screws that are broken loose way easier to remove. And the 1/4" finger ratchet fits in the end to get you about 90% torqued.
Available at pep boys and harbor freight. About $5 each. The craftsman nut driver is $10 for USA made.
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I remember my first thread, asking what a noise was when I got going 110mph.
Pretty much got flamed for driving like a jackass and was told to slow down. And I'll be damned, slowing down fixed it.

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Re: Replacing alternator

My plan was to remove the pump because it simply looked impossible to not remove it. Good to know that the way that I thought would be best to do this was correct. Granted it adds moving the ps pump, but I can handle that. Thank you.
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Re: Replacing alternator

I didn't remove the pump 2 outta 3 times...maybe all three times. I forget why though.

Wasn't difficult once I figured out how to wrench the bolts
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I remember my first thread, asking what a noise was when I got going 110mph.
Pretty much got flamed for driving like a jackass and was told to slow down. And I'll be damned, slowing down fixed it.

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Re: Replacing alternator

Replaced it without removing the p/s pump. Hopefully everything works well with it...will see in the next couple days.
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Re: Replacing alternator

T'won't that bad, was it? Tight fits but do-able.

I think I remember struggling with the tensioner alignment at one point upon re-assembly that lead to a loose belt.
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Only seen the first one, 15 years ago in theaters. Plan on keeping it that way. Get off my lawn.
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I remember my first thread, asking what a noise was when I got going 110mph.
Pretty much got flamed for driving like a jackass and was told to slow down. And I'll be damned, slowing down fixed it.

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Re: Replacing alternator

The replacement of the adjuster was ignorant because for the longest time I could not get it to thread properly.

All of that is irrelevant though because the alternator was bad and I have to do it all again. HAHA! Should be a LOT faster this time around.
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Re: Replacing alternator

So having a bit of bad luck or I am doing something wrong. I am questioning if I am getting the right alternator.

I did the H23A swap into my car from the H22, would that make a difference in the alternator that I would need or have I just gotten 2 bad alternators in a row??

Really need my car back up and running and even though this is an easy switch it is frustrating when there are the unknown things that come up with it.
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Re: Replacing alternator

How good are your connections?

I killed 2 (hence 3 times r&r) by having lousy connections. My after market terminals were coated with colored paint (red/black) and until the areas wire touches were bare metal the current was erratic.

And yes by #3 you should be pretty good at it.
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I remember my first thread, asking what a noise was when I got going 110mph.
Pretty much got flamed for driving like a jackass and was told to slow down. And I'll be damned, slowing down fixed it.

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Re: Replacing alternator

The connections are all clean. I cleaned up the battery posts and connections when I took the old one out (to be sure that those were clean while I had it apart anyways), and the connections to the alternator both look good.

On the battery connector for the alternator though it has 2 bolts that can be removed. I was looking at my old alternator and I think that the connector is placed between the two bolts. I have it the same way on the new one, but I am thinking that maybe I need to take both of the bolts off and put the connector flush on the alternator.

I know that I may be grasping at straws here, but I just want my car back. I guess it is a good thing that my wife isn't working at this moment and she drops me off at work.
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Re: Replacing alternator

Have you checked the service manual for that bolt's method of assembly?
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I remember my first thread, asking what a noise was when I got going 110mph.
Pretty much got flamed for driving like a jackass and was told to slow down. And I'll be damned, slowing down fixed it.

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Re: Replacing alternator

No. I was at work all day and didn't have access to that. I will make sure to look at it though. Wasn't thinking straight when the second one proved that it didn't want to charge.
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Re: Replacing alternator

You da man,

By now I'dv'e been in tool tossing mode.
I used to have a mechanic to fix my f@#k-ups but he retired his business. He usually told me to turn in my tools.

Hope you get this thing going soon.
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Pretty much got flamed for driving like a jackass and was told to slow down. And I'll be damned, slowing down fixed it.

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Re: Replacing alternator

Yeah. It is just a matter of time. Either I am doing something wrong, or I am getting "lucky" with these alternators.
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Re: Replacing alternator

Well, the word I got is that rebuilt Honda alternators are very miss and hit (I changed it because they are a lot more miss than hit). Something about the diodes being difficult to re-engineer.

My car is back up and running, thanks to Prelude1897, because I got a used alternator. I think in delivery that it got banged up on the truck, but I had my old one to take parts off of to make it all work. Everything is working great again.

4 remanufactured alternators < 1 used alternator.
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Re: Replacing alternator

Niiiice!!

I had an 1897 on mine for a minute or two. My issue with continuity burnt that up, and that's how I ended up with alternator #3 in a couple of weeks.

Glad you got it.
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