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Old 05-16-2014, 05:54 PM
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Bad ignition switch perhaps?

OK guys I know our cars are famous for bad ignition switches. Mine has 257k and I'm not sure if it has been replaced.

Today I was going down the interstate and my gauges went dead. Even the gas needle started dropping down which is really weird. Also clock was not illuminated. But the car continued to run. So I drove home and aside of not having blinkers everything acted normal. When I got home I left the car running and rolled down the window. When I opened the door the key chime came on as if the car was off and I was leaving the keys on it. When I got back in the car, the window wouldn't roll up. It was as if the car believed that the key was not in it but it was still running. It was weird though because my radio still worked. So I cut the car off and began diagnostics

So I began checking fuses, after a visual inspection of both boxes I couldn't see anything burnt so I got my meter and started reading 12v. Everything looked good. So I said what the heck and reached over and turned the key to the run position and the gauges lit up just like normal, the clock came back on. The kicker is the clock didn't lose time. Its like it didn't completely lose power it just didn't know to come on.

The only cases of a bad ignition switch I have found have been guys that have no start or stalling issues. My car did not stall and cranked just like normal when the gauges weren't working. Its weird that the switch is telling the car to start but not for the gauges.

So has anyone encountered a problem like this?
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Re: Bad ignition switch perhaps?

def has to deal with the recall issue.

Honda told me it was the spring that either springs, or doesnt spring upon removal, that causes haywire to the gages and what not. my issue started it turning off while driving. then later staying on while key was out... weird ish
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Thanks for the reply lazarky. I drove the car without trouble all weekend. I will be looking in to finding a replacement switch soon
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Thanks for the reply lazarky. I drove the car without trouble all weekend. I will be looking in to finding a replacement switch soon
NP good luck. stop by your dealer see if recall has been done. sfree
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If you can't get to a dealer you can check at honda.com if you know your vin.
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Re: Bad ignition switch perhaps?

Well the ghost in my cluster is back. I went to get in the car for lunch and the windows wouldn't go down and when I cranked the car the tach hopped for a split second and fell back down. It makes me wonder if their is a relay that could be sticking somewhere in the car. The CEL and oil pressure light illuminate when I turn the key on but after I crank the car all of the lights go out. Stumped right now but i'm going to try to go through the FSM and see where those circuits go between the ignition and the cluster.

Lazarky I have been slack about going by the dealer because it hadn't reared its ugly head again until today

Bykfixer I entered in my VIN on honda but it would only tell me if I had any pending recalls, I had no access to any service records that may have been done on the car
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Re: Bad ignition switch perhaps?

the car shuts down all the time if ignition switch is gone
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Re: Bad ignition switch perhaps?

Haha i'm stuck at work at the moment sir. So I just went out on break and took the plastics from around the column and started jiggling stuff with the car running with no result, then i took the plastic off the kick panel and with a fonzerelli like tap on the fuse box everything started working again. I had that whole unit out when I was trying to diagnose my a/c so I must have screwed something up then. So i think the ignition switch is ruled out but now there is so much more to contend with in that box
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Re: Bad ignition switch perhaps?

how about ignition control unit then?

I tried to replace it before we figure out it was ignition switch
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ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy (thumbs up)

Percussive maintenance ftw!

Type T I'm not sure of what part you are talking about. All I can think about is the ignition control module and i'm not having any problem getting spark or with the car running
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Type T I'm not sure of what part you are talking about. All I can think about is the ignition control module
yeah that

but maybe you have bad connection there somewhere around gauges?
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Re: Bad ignition switch perhaps?

Even if the switch has been replaced once, Honda will probably replace it again. I'm at 280K miles and have been on my 3rd ignition switch for a couple of years.
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Re: Bad ignition switch perhaps?

You mentioned while trouble shoot-ing your ac...

What did you do electrically to think it could be left from that?

I agree with Lazarky that you should rule out the ignition switch asap...
Before you end up commuting on your 175 every day.
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Re: Bad ignition switch perhaps?

When the ignition switch goes, the car starts running crappy, and cutting out for no apparent reason. The switch does fail, even if it has been replaced already. As I said, I'm on my THIRD one. The one Honda replaced on the original recall (switch #2) failed, too.
Seems like it some weird gremlin. It's the ignition switch.
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You mentioned while trouble shoot-ing your ac...

What did you do electrically to think it could be left from that?

I agree with Lazarky that you should rule out the ignition switch asap...
Before you end up commuting on your 175 every day.
haha if I can get the 175 in running order I will be riding it quite a bit, still haven't touched her though. I removed that entire fuse box under the dash and replaced it with another used unit that ended up being the wrong one from an earlier 5th gen that caused my alternator not to charge. I'm thinking maybe I pulled on one of the wire harnesses too hard or didn't get one securely plugged back in. It seems like that unit had about 10 ribbons coming off of it and they have to be done in order to be able to have the slack to twist and get it mounted back in there. I do agree that the ignition switch should be ruled out I am just such a procrastinator

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When the ignition switch goes, the car starts running crappy, and cutting out for no apparent reason. The switch does fail, even if it has been replaced already. As I said, I'm on my THIRD one. The one Honda replaced on the original recall (switch #2) failed, too.
Seems like it some weird gremlin. It's the ignition switch.
I'm going to try stopping by my local honda dealership and see if they will be as accomodating as yours has been to you. I'm just worried they are gonna give me crap about my battery relocation, wire tuck, obd1 conversion etc stuff I have done to the car
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Re: Bad ignition switch perhaps?

Lost all power to the car yesterday. Had to push it into a gas station parking lot in the pouring down rain. Nothing would work on the car, no lights, horn, key beep. Nothing. After a few minutes it cranked back up and i got it home. Let it run for a while in the driveway revving it up and it cut off again and lost all power. Went to the fusebox with the meter and was not getting any power there. Checked the fuse I installed with my battery relocation. The fuse was good but upon removal I found it was burnt/corroded on the blades.



I'm hoping this will put a stop to all this electrical crap

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