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Shorting out somewhere?

Ok so last week I went to start my car, got in and all the lights came on. When I turned the key i heard a 'click' and all the lights died and the battery was 100% dead. I jumped it and it started fine but wouldn't stay running on its own, had to keep the rpms up. When I made it home I charged the battery overnight and in the morning noticed the ground terminal on the battery was a hair loose so I tightened it and it seemed to have fixed the problem. But last night it did the same thing. Turned the key, heard a click, and everything died. So I jumped it and drove it home keeping the rpms up so it didn't die. But the battery terminals are tight and I'm out of ideas.The battery is almost brand new and holds a charge, and the day after I fixed it the first time, the alternator seemed to be pushing about 15v so it was good. I'm thinking the alternator might be shot, or it's got a bad ground to the starter or alternator. Anyone have this issue before or have any suggestions to check?

I do have a ground kit that I can put on but I don't know where all the ground points are, or if that's even the issue I'm having.


Also, I've only owned the car a couple weeks so I don't know much about it
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:18 PM
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Re: Shorting out somewhere?

I'm having much the same problem, and haven't tracked it down yet. I've already been through the ignition switch (worth checking on your car -- 5th gens are notorious for ignition switch problems), the ground connections, the starter, the alternator, and the distributor...no joy. Someone suggested the battery power cable might be corroded under the connector -- it doesn't look bad, and the connector itself is on tight, but I may try that just because. Other than that, my next stop is the coil...after that, everything in the damn ignition circuit will be brand new.
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Re: Shorting out somewhere?

Yea so far I've checked the battery terminals, had the alternator tester, and the starter checked. The visible ground connections are solid. I;ll check the ignition tomorrow probably. Only thing is I have a viper alarm system, any idea if that's hooked to the ignition at all?
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Re: Shorting out somewhere?

I'd check all connections first . I had the same problem n it turned out my connections weren't solid , the ground that led to the bottom looked like rats ate through it. Before u touch your igniton. I'd check those next bet is your ignition switch
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Re: Shorting out somewhere?

I don't see any reason it could be the ignition switch, but I'll check into it. It worked fine since i started the thread, but ofcourse, this morning it did it again. I'm able to jumpstart it without a problem, so the starter isnt bad. But it feels like a positive wire is touching and draining the battery because it won't keep itself running, but the alternator and battery are good
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Re: Shorting out somewhere?

When I get a chance later I'm gonna test to see if there is current going through the battery when the car is off. That should tell me if a hot wire is sparking or touching somewhere

to me, what it seems like is that slowly over a couple days it's draining the battery. Eventually it gets to the point where it's barely charged enough to turn the lights on, but not enough for the starter to do its thing. I just need to figure out if that's definitely the case or if I'm crazy and just overthinking it

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Re: Shorting out somewhere?

turns out my battery was 5 years old. Looked up the number in the system at autozone and that's what I found out. Replaced the battery and everything seems to run fine now. As of now, it looks like the battery was the issue all along..
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Alas, that won't help me...I already replaced my battery. :(
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Re: Shorting out somewhere?

Great news.

Jamie, recently my truck was doing similar to what op was describing. I refastened the hot wire battery terminal wire to the actual terminal and it's all good now. I noticed the terminal and hot battery post were darker than the negative connection and thought 'wth' and it worked.

Guess what I'm saying is even though the wires and connections 'looked' fine, the hot one wasn't.
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Re: Shorting out somewhere?

yea I decided to swap the battery because when it died yesterday, I hooked a battery charger to it and the posts started smoking and it fried my charger...I know it was hooked up right so it had to be the battery. I'm dumb, but not that dumb
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^^ sounds like that was scarey!
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