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Playing around with an awd idea/v6 rwd idea

So I found a thread from somewhere else that has an adapter plater for a h22 to have a d series trans on it. I'll post if u want me to. Yes tons and tons of fab but like I said it's an idea, but what I'm trying to get at here is an awd prelude using some parts from the d16a6 awd civic instead of the crv, cuz it's wayyyy cheaper parts. Possibly parts from the s2000 too? Is this possible to mate the drivetrain of that civic to the h22 and fab it into the prelude? I'll have to do a lot more research but an awd Lude would be nuts I think.

My other thought is somehow doing j32 rwd swap. I don't even know if that's possible tho without like 20k. Buttttt everyone says prelude need to be rwd and everyone else says it needs to be a v6 so a rwd v6 Lude would be nuts as well.

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AWD has been done, RWD has been done, J swap has been done, but I don't think AWD J swap has been done yet, so make it happen and post lots of pics
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Yeah awd j32 twin turbo prelude..... That's a car from the gods haha. Where is this awd Lude? I was looking all last night and this morning. I wanna see what they did. Who knows what awd trans will fit on a j series block tho?
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The only prelude worth making is a 4WS AWD J32.... That's gonna costa ya lol
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Yeah awd j32 twin turbo prelude..... That's a car from the gods haha. Where is this awd Lude? I was looking all last night and this morning. I wanna see what they did. Who knows what awd trans will fit on a j series block tho?
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Oooo I might look into that. Probably like 20k like I said tho.

Can anyone answer my first idea. Can you use a awd civic drivetrain with an h22 in a Lude? Yes everything is possible with money but that's the point of using the civics instead of crvs, save as much money as you can.
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Yes, but is it worth the work?
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Can I make a paperclip chain 6 km long?

Yes, but is it worth the work?
That's opinion based
I haven't seen a rwd v6 Lude before. Anyone else seen one?
The point of using civic parts for awd is to make it worth it.
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Mechanical 4ws that sucka while yer at it like sideswipe said.

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The problem with a J-swap is finding a manual transmission, because they're relatively uncommon.

TL SH-AWD also is also an option for a tranny for a J.
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That's opinion based
I haven't seen a rwd v6 Lude before. Anyone else seen one?
The point of using civic parts for awd is to make it worth it.


If you seriously think dumping (EASILY) $20K into a car that's only worth.... 4K..... nvm.



And it's not gonna be the cost of PARTS that's gonna be the killer; it's gonna be the cost of FABRICATION/LABOR that's gonna kill you (especially if you're not DIY), as is with any automotive work.
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Re: Playing around with an awd idea/v6 rwd idea

I like the creativity and all, but what about weight distribution. Wont a v6 move more weight forward while putting the power to the rear? Seems like bad logic unless you really want to get sideways in a hurry. The awd seems like a better idea, and as Subaru has shown, the flat 4 sits lower and keeps balance and handling at a max. I wouldn't go the route of using an h22 personally, but if that is what you have to work with... Set your mind to one drive train set up and then come back and ask a more detailed question pertaining to just that one.
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I could do all the fab myself. My dad has built cars and I have friends in welding school. Ect ect, imo it's your car, you work on it. Otherwise some guy did it or "my mechanic put it in". I'd like to say I build the first j swap awd lude. That's Something you get your name in a magazine for haha.

I figured using the awd honda parts would be easiest to fab more then acura or Subaru.

Well weight distribution, I think we have something like 45/55. V6 would bring a lot of weight to the front but the new rear end of the awd or rwd would also bring more weight to the back. After all that tho that brings up something else, we're at 2500ish already. That new drivetrain is going to weigh a lot. I wonder how the car would handle. Awd it would handle at least fine and rwd... well it's rwd so who cares about handling? If you have rwd and your cornering, your back tires better be spinning haha.
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And it's not gonna be the cost of PARTS that's gonna be the killer; it's gonna be the cost of FABRICATION/LABOR that's gonna kill you (especially if you're not DIY), as is with any automotive work.
Truer words have never existed in such collaboration to form a thought.

The other problem is once you fabricate a one of a kind, you will pay more for third party repairs or be downright turned away cause regular shops won't touch it. And you need a personal account of all the parts/parts numbers used to build the car.

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if you want 6 cylinders, AWD, and Twin turbo buy a F*ckin 3000GT Vr-4 , a GTR or import an older Skyline, either one of these would be more cost effective
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If I get a Nissan it's going to be a s15 and I'd have to get that shipped and then make it street legal here And to mention it would be right hand drive. Why do that when I can keep my Lude do what I want to it and have a much cooler car for the same price. For 20gs I'd rather have an awd v6 Lude then a right hand drive Nissan. Plus I know nothing about those cars and I'm learning a lot about honda now.

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Are you kidding? I said nothing about that Japanese.... I'm driving one of their cars. Where's the racist comment?

We don't trade with Cuba because they helped the soviets put in nukes in Cuba but when a country actually does bomb us we let them sell their cars in our country? Wtf?

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You can't hold grudges for something you probably weren't even alive for...

Anyways you could probably just keep the 4 cyl, twin charge it, and go awd if you want something ridiculous. Trying to mate a j series into a custom awd transmission is gonna be a lot harder if you have to worry about engine mounts, ecu, wiring harness, etc.
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