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Icon8 Slow acceleration problems!!

So I just bought a used 2001 manual prelude (120,000 miles) from a private seller. It seemed awesome when I test drove it & everything worked fine... Except for the fact that the transmission was slightly slipping on 5th gear. I still bought it, but offered less than what he asked for because of this.

Then, the day after I bought it... I planned to drive it around a bit, but it started doing something very tragic.

When I put it in 1st & let the clutch go while pressing the gas, the acceleration is so weak to the point to where I gotta rock the car to get it going. Well, when it gets to a good enough speed to shift to 2nd gear, 2nd gear takes FOREVER to accelerate & pick up speed. I'll drive like 5 blocks until I can shift to 3rd. If I start off on a higher gear than 1st, it'll obviously take WAY longer to pick up a decent speed. It had so much power the 1st day I drove it!

What could be the problem?

I had people tell me it's the transmission, the clutch or even the vacuum lines. Plan on getting it checked with a mechanic, but wanted to hear if others have faced the same problem or know what it is before I go with what the mechanic says.

(Keep in mind that the clutch feels like it's supposed to & I can easily shift gears with the shift knob. BUT, it doesn't stall when I start on 2nd, keep the e-brake on, & apply NO gas while letting the clutch go)
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Re: Slow acceleration problems!!

ya your clutch and flywheel are probably done its time for a new one
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Re: Slow acceleration problems!!

I really hope it's the clutch. Seen they run from $200-$800 so I'm willing to order a racing clutch & flywheel & have my mechanic change it.

My cousin told me that it shouldn't be the clutch though. Supposedly prelude clutches last a while, but I don't think any of the previous owners have changed it. He said I could have a leak in the vacuum hoses, but would that really take away this much power? I can't even leave my neighborhood in fear that I will get hit by 40 mph traffic!
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Re: Slow acceleration problems!!

I would do a compression test on all four cylinders if I were you. That will tell you the health of your engine and if your losing compression in any of the cylinders. You can rent a simple compression tester at autozone, and the procedure is fairly simple. I believe there are a few write-ups of it on the site.
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Update: I just tried to go as fast as I can on each gear & it actually picks up a lot of speed. What I mean is I'll be in 1st gear & I'll smash on the gas until the RPM's are at around 5500 & the car will start flying. Slowly, but surely. This tells me it's definitely not the transmission.

I will ask the mechanic to do a compression test & clean the air filter. First car so I don't wanna mess with it myself too much.
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Re: Slow acceleration problems!!

i still got my money on bad clutch and flywheel
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Re: Slow acceleration problems!!

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& the car will start flying. Slowly, but surely.


That makes NO sense what-so-ever!!


To test a slipping clutch; get to ~55mph, in 5th gear, and SLAM on the gas. If the rpm's shoot way up, and car doesn't go anywhere......
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Re: Slow acceleration problems!!

That's exactly what happened to my car when I was test driving it. I shifted into 5th gear & the tachometer started going crazy for a second so I smashed on the gas & it didn't go much faster. I let off the gas a bit & the speed started rising above 55 mph with the rpm's going back to normal.

I guess I didn't explain how I wanted to earlier because I posted while at work.

Pretty much right now I rev my engine and the car hesitates before accelerating, so I think the clutch isn't delivering the boost in RPM through the transmission to the drive wheels. IT'S GOTTA BE THE CLUTCH, RIGHT?!!

I'm going with SoFlaKidd's answer, but will still do the compression test before getting my clutch replaced.
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Re: Slow acceleration problems!!

now that you put it that way, it does sound like a clutch related issue, especially if you are in gear and applying power and the RPM's are rising but the car is not responding/moving.
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Re: Slow acceleration problems!!

Now, about that... I don't want to get my head ripped by a mechanic for him buying the clutch & flywheel that he sees fit.

What clutch is known to be the most common for 5th gen preludes? I plan on ordering one from ebay motors or an online shop similar & just paying the mechanic for labor in installing it.

Also, what's the worst that could happen to my engine/transmission if I install a racing clutch with a stock engine/no engine upgrades?
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Well, besides the AEM V2 Intake & GReddy full cat back exhaust the prelude came with.
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Exedy clutch + Fidanza flywheel.
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Thanks, after much research I came to decide on a stage 1 exedy & Fidanza Flywheel. Realized that a racing clutch won't affect the engine in any, only that it's kind of pointless with no other upgrades if I'm planning to race my prelude.

How come I read that Exedy Stage 2's help against minor slippage? If this is true, then I rather go with a stage 2 as slippage is a nightmare.
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Re: Slow acceleration problems!!

got my OEM exedy/8 pound flywheel for 300 at gripforce.com. absolutley no problems on CAI/catback apexi n1. the flywheel gave my motor a nice growl to it as well
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My OEM Exedy had zero problems handling 275wtq...... I don't think minor I/H/E will be a problem
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Re: Slow acceleration problems!!

So it's been 2 weeks since I last posted on this thread. My car has been idle for the longest time. I haven't taken it to a mechanic (don't ask me why) & I decided to take pictures of what I thought are dead giveaways of what the problem could be...
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1st pic is of the front left wheel axle (driver's side) from under the car.

This 2nd pic is of the same thing, but through the engine bay. A little hard to see, but seems that my wheel axle is leaking oil?
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Also, aside from what it looks like my wheel axle looking greasy... Behind my clutch pedal (slave cylinder perhaps) seems to be leaking oil as well...
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If this makes it any clear to some of you guys what the problem could most likely be that's not letting my car move forward then please let me know your thoughts.
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Re: Slow acceleration problems!!

I still say replace the clutch and flywheel. As for the last picture, thats actually the clutch master cylinder. The slave cylinder bolts to your transmission and actually operates the clutch itself. Pretty easy to replace, you could even do it yourself; just remove the hard and soft lines that come from the engine bay, unbolt the reservoir, and the two bolts up by where the clutch pedal is. Now all you gotta do is remove that little rod linkage that that attaches to the pedal and it pulls straight out.
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Re: Slow acceleration problems!!

I don't think it's the clutch and flywheel. I think it's probably related to your ignition system. I'd suspect plugs/plug-wires, ignition coil, or ICM. Could possibly even be a bad TPS or O2 sensor.

Are there any CEL's? Was the timing ever done? When was the last tune-up? I'd find out as much information as you can about the service history of the car since you just bought it. At 120K, depending on how well it was cared for, it's not uncommon to have issues arise. It's also common for the clutch/flywheel to be replaced around that much mileage.

You mentioned your tach going crazy, was the needle bouncing erratically?
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Yes, the tachometer was moving erratically... But only when I first test drove it & had it in 5th gear. Now, the acceleration is so bad that I can't even bring it up to a good speed on 5th gear without redlining the rpm's on every gear before it.

I don't think the guy serviced it much. When he sold it to me he told me that he has reciepts of some work put into it... The only work HE put into it was a new shifter, new wheels, CAI, exhaust & HID lights. The only reciepts of mechanical work put into it were from the owner before him. Found a new slave cylinder reciept along with various other service records. So from 2013-2014 there's a chance the car wasn't fully taken care of.

I'm thinking about taking it to a well known mechanic in my town & have him fix whatever it could be then when it's driveable, take it to Honda & having them diagnose it. Or should I do this backwards?
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Re: Slow acceleration problems!!

Well I don't want to fully discredit the suggestions that it's related to the clutch completely, it's just hard to know without experiencing it first hand. It could be so many things.

The symptoms you're describing remind me of what I've experienced when I had issues with my ignition coil and ICM. It was like I had no power under 3K rpms and the car would hesitate and jerk. But once you got the rpms high enough the car would come to life, but shifting up a gear which would bog you down again. Does that sound like what you're experiencing?

Yes I would take it to the mechanic if you think he's reliable. Going to Honda is very hit or miss. My experience with the local Honda dealership has been horrible.
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What you just described is exactly what happens to my car. It doesn't really jerk though. I plan on lifting the front up with a jack stand & see if the front wheels even spin before taking it to a mechanic.

I feel like it could be the wheel axle (or whatever the correct term for that is) is damaged & is having trouble spinning the wheels to move the car forward, therefore I have to apply much more power to force the axle to move. Maybe this isn't the problem though, but it sure feels like it.
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Re: Slow acceleration problems!!

MIne has the problem where once it warms up it's dead below 3k and when it hits VTEC YO!! its monster. .
I already cleaned the dirty egr ports so if you haven't done that yet it's easy and not very expensive at all
I believe mine to have ignition issues as well.. If you hit the gas And the rpm shoots up and the car goes nowhere. Most likely clutch, if it's dead and comes with higher rpm most likely going to be a different issue.... but that's just me talking and I know you're not allowed to have your own opinion on the Internet. .
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Haha, I've never cared about responses to my opinions on the internet. It kind of helps to hear different possibilities to break it down to what the problem could be.

I appreciate all of you guys throwing stuff out here. Tomorrow I'm finally taking it the get checked so I'll let y'all know what the mech. Says
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I had a similar problem but on a first gen crv. It was the distributor.
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Re: Slow acceleration problems!!

Alright, so I just picked it up from the mechanic yesterday & he replaced the clutch, flywheel, front brake pads & rotors, transmission fluid & driver's side cv axle. Drove it around town for like 30 mind. & since I'm not used to the new clutch, it stalled on me about 4 times. The 5th time it stalled at a friend's house (luckily) & I haven't been able to start the engine since the last time it stalled on me. The engine cranks but it won't start. Batteries good so I'm thinking fuel pump or distributor cap needs replaced as well.

Have any of you encountered this problem or know what it could be?
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