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Am I Being Scammed?

THIS IS A LONG STORY, BUT I NEED HELP!

Okay, so I've posted here before about my 2000 Prelude lagging and lacking power when I try to accelerate on an incline. I took it into Honda for an 8 year service and alerted them to my concern. They said that I needed a new radiator which could possibly be the problem. They also recommended a timing belt and water pump which I had replaced somewhere else about 30K miles ago. They said nevermind since the computer automatically recommends it if there isn't a record of having it done at Honda.

Anyway, they recommended a v-tech solenoid (spelling?) and some valves and seals. However, they assured me the radiator was the priority and everything else could be done one at a time since it would cost over $1700. So, I told them I'd like to get a second opinion. I got the 8 year service anyway, paid $275. I leave the dealer and about four miles down the road my oil light flashes red. I pull up into my driveway, check my oil and there is no oil on the dipstick. I backed my car out and there is a trail of oil leaking down the driveway and deep down in my engine. By the way, my car has never leaked oil and I've never had a light come on.

I towed it back and it took them 4 hours to call me and let me know that it was a bunch of seals and a timing belt that had been soaked by the oil. They said it happens on Preludes all the time and it's a mere "coincidence" that it happend within minutes of leaving the dealer. My uncle went up there to check things out and said there was a hole as big as a penny that look punctured somewhere under my car.

My question is, what do I do? They want $700 for the seals and timing belt alone. Am I being ripped off? Was my car sabotaged or was it really a "coincidence"? I just don't see how it is possible that they could have my car for over 24 hours, and allow me to drive off without warning me that something bad could happen relatively soon. It's just weird! Any opinions or suggestions are welcomed. Thank you!
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yea it sounds like they're trying to jack you. it sounds to convenient that it would suddenly go wrong when they said it would. i call it sabotage. my suggestion... put some oil back in it, make sure the drain bolt is tight and make sure the oil fiter is tight. start it up and check for leaks.

as far as i know, i've never heard of a prelude that has oil on the timing belt. oh and if it did happen all the time, its called a factory defect/recall and it should be fixed for free.

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Thank you Drew. I don't know how to do all that, but I'll find someone that will. This is sooo nerve-wrecking. I'm supposed to be enjoying a birthday this weekend and now I have this sh*t to worry about.
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It not a coincidence that you had a oil leak after they worked on your car tell them that you talked to you lawer and that if they dont fix it for free your going to stand on the said walk and tell everyone what happened and not to do any business with you (witch if you want you can do ) most of the time it will be fix they dont need anyone messing with their money. when i had my saab i had and oil light come on and had it looked at well long story short they messed up so i got about $200 worth of work free on top of what they messed up
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man i hate to say it but the honda dealer around here did the same kind of thing to me but the guy just forgot to put oil in it after they changed it i sewed and got a free motor. i would get a the law in on it man it will be worth it
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It's no secret that Honda makes a good car. I've owned many. I had a 85 CRX HF that once it finally went to the scrap yard it was only 5,000 miles sort of half a million miles on it. Thats right 495,000 miles three timing belts and water pumps, two sets of axles (CV joints). Thats about it other than tires. Dealerships across the US are hurting in their Service Departments and need business. Most all their buisness it warranty repair and recalls.

So I would not put it past them that some dishonest Dealership are sabotaging our vehicles. I would try and ask others that have been to that dealership and had similar incidents. If you have other vehicle owners saying they had similar "coincidence" happen to them. Then I would say you have a good case and bring it to a local attorney's attention and go after that dealership. Good luck my friend and keep us posted.
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I suggest after all of this ordeal, you contact Honda consumer affairs and report this dealer, tell them everything, document everything. http://automobiles.honda.com/informa...relations.aspx
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look i was a mechanic for awhile and my whole family is one too my uncle owns a shop and he is probably the most honest mechanic out there and now im not like "oh not all mechanics are dishonest" cause we all know that what i am saying is this we have had to fix so many other places mistakes thats is stupid if you think about it for 6 months we had nothing but mistakes from dealerships come in 6 MONTHS so yes dealerships are worthless they over charge and sometimes wreck things what i would do if i were you talk to a few other mechanics like the neighborhoodones you know the ones that survive off hardly any money cause they just love fixing cars get their input and then go back to the dealership and tell them if your suing or not cause they could have wrecked something worse

and then what i would do is find a nice mechanic who doesnt over charge and take the car there you will get one on one service and you will be treated with dignity and be a valued member of supporting his family and his business

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I appreciate your replies and will keep you posted. People say they always do this to women and children, especially. I feel so vulnerable and screwed right now. I don't give a dang what they recommended. Sure my car needed some work, but before I took it to them, I never had a leak, or any lights coming on. How is it that I get a few blocks down the road after a tune-up and BAM, all the crap that they said I needed fixed and MORE suddenly goes bad?!

So, should I pick up my car from them, take it somewhere else, and still sue them? Or, should I do what a previous poster said, and raise hell and disrupt order at their dealership (scare a few customers)? I'm not that type but my mother sure is!
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Mizlude, they put oil in it but when I got down the road, a seal busted and oil was leaking out in mass amounts on the way home. Now, it's all over my driveway and all over stuff in my engine.
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I appreciate your replies and will keep you posted. People say they always do this to women and children, especially. I feel so vulnerable and screwed right now. I don't give a dang what they recommended. Sure my car needed some work, but before I took it to them, I never had a leak, or any lights coming on. How is it that I get a few blocks down the road after a tune-up and BAM, all the crap that they said I needed fixed and MORE suddenly goes bad?!

So, should I pick up my car from them, take it somewhere else, and still sue them? Or, should I do what a previous poster said, and raise hell and disrupt order at their dealership (scare a few customers)? I'm not that type but my mother sure is!
Before suing them you should go there and demand for their mistake to be fixed. I took my car to the dealer to get the valves adjusted and after that it was leaking like crazy, I complained, they fixed it free.
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never trust the dealer. they're the reason why i swapped my h23a for a h22a. i walked in one day to replace a radiator (why? i don't know... still kicking myself for it). what's the worst they can do right? $300? couple of hours later, they called for something else. later on, something else. by the end of the day, it was a $1500 job. next day, they called and told me that the block detonated while performing the leak down test (don't ask, because i still don't know). they said the head was damaged and wanted another $3500 to put in a new head. that brings my total to $5000. at that point, i told them not to touch the car, and i'm towing it out. on the way out, the tow truck driver told me it's a common thing at that dealer.

fast forward a few months. indy shop swaps in a jdm h22a. when picking up the car, one of the mechanics there told me that he couldn't find anything wrong with the h23a. so wtf just happened? you tell me.
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Andrew, I'm not sure it will be that easy. I don't want to demand they fix it and then have my car held hostage until I pay the insane costs! I just filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and sent copies to the general manager and service manager and my aunt who is a lawyer. They won't return my call and are always in "meetings."
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I'm new and new to the car, but I've heard that there is a plug that is known to come off and actually cause engines to burn because by the time some people notice its too late and they've fried the internals in their engines. I would say though that it does sound convenient that the things they alerted you off are suddently going wrong. Specially if they had your car in their possesion and you did not know what was being done/saw what was being done to it. I would call it a scam or sabotage... Check for that plug i told you, make sure you check if its loose or if it looks like it had been loosened and then retightened after they cause the leak and possible engine damage....if that pug is loose and the leek comes from there, i would say you were set up for sure! if its ok and it doesn't look tampered with, i would say they might of done something different =\
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Okay you are in good position for now (I would say they will want to settle and fix your problem since being contacted by your aunt who is a lawyer), consult with your aunt you said who is a lawyer? Now do a little research find a honda owner nearby where this dealer is and ask them if they ever experienced an od coincidence like you have experienced. Then you have proof but be sure they will testify in court. If they are in fact doing this to people's cars they need to be put in their place. Fired or otherwise, we work too hard and spend way too much money on automobiles these days for them to do this to us.

This is why I am glad my father showed me at a very young age to work on cars. I was doing my first engine swap at age 14. I do all my own vehicle maintenance and I know when something was done wrong.

For example Wal Mart

I was leaving early in the morning the next day so on the way home from work that night I decided to stop and have Wal Mart change my oil in my mini van. They paged me over the innercom at the Tire Center and I went back I knew it had not been enough time to have changed the oil. So I got to the counter and this little chic (sorry still pissed at her for the way she handled things) Anyhow the service guy (they aren't even mechanics no qualifications I.E. MSE) Well he put on a airgun and started to take out the drain plug well he didn't change the direction on it and tightened it out. Well he rung the hex head of the bolt off and could not get the drain plug out. They told me it was like that when it came in. I was very upset and told them I am very mechanically inclined and I always did my own maintenance and I know for a fact they were lying. I believe I had not only the Tire Center Clerk fired but also the techinician. Not for the mistake but for the down right lie they were telling. Because the tech finally confessed and the store manager walked him out along with the mouthy clerk. It happens people, dishonesty and its a done right shame.

I am very sorry you are having this trouble and hope a solution is close at hand. Good luck
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Yeah just try and get advise from someone who knows how to handle it better. Don't lose your cool until i guess you can't take it anymore, lol. But talking to someone experienced on how to handle the matter is the smartest thing- it might not be the quickest but its the smart and proper way to do it.
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So, should I pick up my car from them, take it somewhere else, and still sue them? Or, should I do what a previous poster said, and raise hell and disrupt order at their dealership (scare a few customers)? I'm not that type but my mother sure is!
lol that was me just play dume until you can tell us what they sayed is was wrong then w/e they said was the oil leak dont pay for it (B/C they messed it up more or less) any thing else say you want at a discount b/c of all the inconvenience you had b/c of them and if they are still F-ing you over start a mass call in wear ppl call them and saying that if they dont fix the problem they will tack there business some place else and all the other ppl have to say is they bring there cars in for serves a lot and wont ever come in and will protest until this is resolved get 20-30 ppl calling in they will cave fast
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I came across this on the internet at this site

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Oil leak: Sudden oil loss and resultant severe engine damage could be the result of front balance shaft oil plug popping out. (1997)

Not sure if this is what happened to your car, but it could be a possiblity.
Just keep researching and find out what people know about that dealership. I'd say you have a really good chance of getting it fixed without money out of pocket.
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I don't know if this will help anyone with their rides or not you may already know some of this stuff. These are common problems people have experienced with 5th Gen Preludes, plus a few recalls.

Dashboard lights: The malfunction indicator light comes on because the transmission-control module is damaged by electrical spikes from the ignition switch. (1997)
Dashboard lights: The active torque transfer system (ATTS) light may come on and the system will shut down. A revised control unit is available to replace the original one. (1997)
Manual transmission: Because of a manufacturing defect in the shift fork, the transmission may grind going into fifth gear. (1997)
Oil leak: Sudden oil loss and resultant severe engine damage could be the result of front balance shaft oil plug popping out. (1997)
Seatbelts/safety: The button on the seatbelt that prevents the male half of the buckle breaks, and the buckle slides down to the floor. (1997-98)
Transmission problems: Failure of manual and automatic transmissions may be covered under extended warranty up to 7/100,000. (2000-03)
Vehicle noise: The rear corners of the headliner rub against the rear window causing a rattle, especially on rough roads. (1997)
Vehicle noise: Rattles or buzzing from under the car may result from the heat shield being too close to the active torque transfer system (ATTS). (1997)


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1997-01: Ignition-switch interlock may not function properly, making it possible to turn key to "off" position and remove it, without shifting transmission to "Park."
1997-98: Certain ball joints can wear out prematurely and, in worst case, would separate, causing front suspension to collapse.


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I'm so sorry that happened to you. I just don't trust anyone now!
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Brute, if it was the oil plug, then they did it because it wasn't like that when I took it to them. My car is still with them, so I can't check.
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Rob,

I guess they got scared after I contacted the Better Business Bureau, Honda Consumer Affairs, and copies to the General and Service managers. They're agreeing to pay half. But, my family says why should I pay half for something I didn't cause? But the way I look at it is, half price for something that may have happened one day. Or would it have?! I don't know!
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Yeah just try and get advise from someone who knows how to handle it better. Don't lose your cool until i guess you can't take it anymore, lol. But talking to someone experienced on how to handle the matter is the smartest thing- it might not be the quickest but its the smart and proper way to do it.
Brute, I've already lost my cool. The general manager was very rude to my mother and since he couldn't explain what happened to my car or back it up with facts.... he took the easy way out and made a personal attack, saying if my mom cared about me, she wouldn't let me drive my car like that. He also said he recommended all this stuff at 85K and I didn't have it done. UHHH just not by them but I had it done! Then he says, cheaper isn't better and some other crazy crap. He said all that before being cursed out and offering to settle for half. Bottome line, they're mad at me for taking it as far as I did, with all the people I contacted and the papertrail.
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lol that was me just play dume until you can tell us what they sayed is was wrong then w/e they said was the oil leak dont pay for it (B/C they messed it up more or less) any thing else say you want at a discount b/c of all the inconvenience you had b/c of them and if they are still F-ing you over start a mass call in wear ppl call them and saying that if they dont fix the problem they will tack there business some place else and all the other ppl have to say is they bring there cars in for serves a lot and wont ever come in and will protest until this is resolved get 20-30 ppl calling in they will cave fast
Sorry, for all the messages guys. Just trying to respond to everyone.

Yogi Pahl,

If only I had the energy to find customers that go there and start a mass calling and find people who have had bad experiences. All I foun were six complaints on the BBB website. I think most people dont' want to hassle with complaining. I'll start here then. If anyone from California has had a bad experience with Metro Honda in Montlclair... let me know! =)
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I don't know if this will help anyone with their rides or not you may already know some of this stuff. These are common problems people have experienced with 5th Gen Preludes, plus a few recalls.

Dashboard lights: The malfunction indicator light comes on because the transmission-control module is damaged by electrical spikes from the ignition switch. (1997)
Dashboard lights: The active torque transfer system (ATTS) light may come on and the system will shut down. A revised control unit is available to replace the original one. (1997)
Manual transmission: Because of a manufacturing defect in the shift fork, the transmission may grind going into fifth gear. (1997)
Oil leak: Sudden oil loss and resultant severe engine damage could be the result of front balance shaft oil plug popping out. (1997)
Seatbelts/safety: The button on the seatbelt that prevents the male half of the buckle breaks, and the buckle slides down to the floor. (1997-98)
Transmission problems: Failure of manual and automatic transmissions may be covered under extended warranty up to 7/100,000. (2000-03)
Vehicle noise: The rear corners of the headliner rub against the rear window causing a rattle, especially on rough roads. (1997)
Vehicle noise: Rattles or buzzing from under the car may result from the heat shield being too close to the active torque transfer system (ATTS). (1997)


NHTSA Recall History
1997-01: Ignition-switch interlock may not function properly, making it possible to turn key to "off" position and remove it, without shifting transmission to "Park."
1997-98: Certain ball joints can wear out prematurely and, in worst case, would separate, causing front suspension to collapse.


You can find all of this on
http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...da-prelude.htm
Rob,

I had a new transmission done in 2005. They even tried to charge me for that and tried to make me believe it wasn't recalled! Thank goodness I watch the news! I wonder how many Prelude owners have been suckered out of $3500 for a transmission? Thanks for the heads up on the other stuff. You have all been so helpful. I just wish I knew what to do next.
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