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Hey guys,

for those of you who have read my other posts, you know that i've been posting here for quite a while now- and I still don't own my car...

Its been almost a month now that i've been trying to get these f's to finalyze my car and they still havent...I've been driving the car for the third week now with out its tags because they won't register the car, they have pending repairs on the car which they still havent done...my clutch needs to be replaced, theres moldings that need to be replaced and a pillar on the door that needs to be repaired because someone tried to pry the car open through there or something....

What gets me its that everytime i talk to them about it its aways "yes it'll be done by tomorrow, yes the car will be registered tomorrow, yes your moldings are here i just need to go pick them up" and when ever i call to check up on what has been done its always the same story" it'll be ready by friday, it'll be ready tomorrow, my repair guy is bringing them tomorrow" etc etc

I feel like they don't want to sell me the gd thing, i traded my car in for it for 1600, i think they've already sold my car ( for 3,000) so if i cancel the contract i'm gonna get 1600 back, not my car, which is fine for me, but the f'ers get to make 1400 off of it while i get stuck with out the lude and with out my car. I've had their 6000 dollar check since friday, I went to cash a check they gave me for half the clutch this monday and it bounced, i called them and told them and said they'd write me another check, and then asked me "do you have our check?" i said "yes" "so when are you bringing it by?" when you have my money and my moldings" and hung it. They want to get paid but not finish my car. When i went to purchase the car I had them paint some things on it that made it look alot better and add that to the price of the car.I've been wondering if now they think its better for them to keep the car and are trying to force me to cancel the account so they can sell it later for more....they've already made 1400 off of my car ( assuming they did sell it, i didn't see it in the lot the last time i went) so they pretty much get a better prelude and 1400 to pay for the cost of the repairs, which were 400 dollars...

Do you guys think i can get a lawyer to handle this? it seems like fraud and theft to me...
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btw , when i signed off for the car the guy at the dealer created a contract stating that he'd have the moldings for my car done by 10 08 07...its the 24th and nothing has been done..they've never returned a call, i've always had to call on anything that needed to be done or was pending, and they have not done a single thing on time or when they said they would ( i'm not exagerating) not a single thing
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Id say sue the bastards...and by a much nicer Lude that doesnt need repairs.
.02 Or just fire bomb their establishment, just make sure your lude is nowhere near it when it goes down
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First get copies of all the paperwork you have between you and them before anything else, Get pics of what you can with how the car looks, that it has no tags, call the dmv and see if they have even let them know about the sale if not get that in writing, and def get a lawyer!!!!

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yeah. sue those f***ers!.. if u both signed a contract and they didnt hold up there end thats defenatly breach of contract!.. SUE THOSE F***ERS!!!

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First get copies of all the paperwork you have between you and them before anything else, Get pics of what you can with how the car looks, that it has no tags, call the dmv and see if they have even let them know about the sale if not get that in writing, and def get a lawyer!!!!

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Thanks guys,

Yeah man I'm really bumed "bummed? bummbed?" whatever, i can't remember lol "i'm really sad!" about it lol cause christ its been this long and i already want to start babying the thing- i've got plans, dreams! idea's that i want to realize you know?! I have been so extremely patient....I just pray to god and all the fairies that these are just SUPER incompetant and arent trying to screw me over- cause that i can forgive, LOL my excuse for not wanting to let go of my prelude =\ I just hope...they're just...stupid, morons, idiots, forgetful, bastards... etc etc

I'm glad you all agree though, i swear its been a month and i've yet to even raise my voice, i havent been aprick or impatient, all i've done is called when i was told things were going to be done- i've been on time and accurate and if that makes me a prick then by god i am one, cause i'm a virgo and i'm all about perfection!
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yeah id be professional about it get the copies just for "Your Files, and Records" then talk to a lawyer cause what they are doin is illegal if you get tagged by the cops for no tags and get a ticket its technically their fault so get the papers and talk to a lawyer and see what they say if you can sue the POOP outta them and get a 01 SH and go from there
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so i talked to them again today. I gave him an ultimatum, i get everything today or i cancel the purchase. They practically begged me not to cancel, that i'll get everything today, the moldings, the check, the lags etc etc... the only thing pending is the a pillar bend which will be done this weekend with me keeping the check til then. If its not done then i will cancel the purchase. Its too much bs.
Thanks for being supportive guys- i'm already looking for other ludes but i can't find one :(

Thanks for being supportive guys :)
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Thanks for being supportive guys :)
thats what we're here for!.. just one big happy lude family!!!
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i'm gonna tell you guys the whole stoy of what these f's had to say...

so i give them an ultimatum, bring me all the things that are pending or start processing my cancellation papers... so the guy promises to bring all my moldings, registration, tags and money for my clutch before i leave work. Telling me on saturday of this week i can have the a pillar on my car fixed at their place while i watch and we'll be done and he can then have the check.

I call him at 430 to remind him not to forget the money for my clutch, then his manager gets on the phone and is like" hello, i'm the manager here and i wanted to tell you that the car that you traded in has a bad engine, we cut the exhaust off so we could hear the engine and the car has bad rockers, so i'm going to have to spend 1000 dollars on fixing it, so what are you going to do for me?" (in reguards to his issue) so i'm like "wtf are you talking about what am i going to do for you? i test drove the car with you, you revved the s* out of it and never said you had an issue taking it, so why is it that now when you're finally going to man up and get some things done all of the sudden my trade in is no good?" etc etc...so i explained to him how since the beginning of this they've never had anything done for me on time or correctly, that i've been driving with out insurance and good tags for 3 weeks waiting for them. How i've gone back and forth time and again and they've sent me back empty handed, how i still dont have the tags, registration, moldins, clutch money, etc etc.. so" wtf do you mean what am i going to do for you?" so after more arguing he says "ok i'll eat it and just get this done case i want to get done with it" and after he says that i hang up...so his friend shows up and he shows up late...he shows up with 2 other people, LOL i think they were scared i was gonna whoop their ass or something... so he comes in an old prelude and tells me that he's going to give me the moldings off of that prelude LOL they had spray painted them, not even sanded them down or primed, i ran my nail across it and the paint came off...jesus... so i'm like "so wtf do i look like to you? you think i'm taking this s*" so the guy looks at me and tells me no no its just till we can order them, so i ask him"you havent found these moldings in 3 weeks?" no i can't find them anywhere, i've even looked for after market ones..etc etc so i'm like, how long is it going to take you to get those moldings? "i don't know how long they'll take to deliver them" etc etc, more bs.... so i throw back more of his spewed bs and tell him that i'll give him tomorrow to find out when he can have my moldings delivered and depending on what he says i'll cancel the order or wait...so more bs, he goes on to tell me that they cannot give me the money for the clutch until i give them the check....i've already said they can't have their chec until my car is finalized (it was the agreement earlier that day, that saturday they'd get the check once my car was done) so i tell him if you're not going to then start the process tomorrow....and i leave, i call the dealer on my way home and tell him why i'm calling, that i want to cancel the order..so the guy starts yelling and telling me how he's getting screwed and how nice they're trying to me with my moldings and etc etc and how he's offended and can't believe how i'm being about it and that even he's tried to look for the moldings and can't find them anywhere so we argue some more and i end up saying "how much do you want to bet i'll find them for you?" and he argues some more and finally says"fine if you can find them find them tell my seller where to get them and we'll get it for you just to end it cause i can't believe all of this etc etc....

I called 1 dealer, 78 dollars for each, delivered in 3 days. 1 phone call to 1 dealer, delievered in 3 days...heh they had called sooo many places and they were STILL waiting for them.... whatever....

So i'm gonna call him tomorrow and tell him how quick and easily i found them, and if he wants to get done with it i'll give him till monday to get them and just give me everything at once and the check is his....what do you guys think?

Sorry for the ranting, but i'm ticked off.....man you shoulda seen their face when i got out of the car, they all jumpe back thinking i was gonna hit them or something, LOL!
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Are you sure this car is worth all of this? I am sure you can find another lude, is there a reason your heart is set on this one? If they are screwing you this bad already, aren't you worried there might be something more wrong with the car later? Have you had a body shop and another mechanics shop look at the car too? I would suggest if you haven't then you should, you have a right as a consumer to have it checked out before you put your money down. Just two cents from a girl who has been screwed by a dealer before.....
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Are you sure this car is worth all of this? I am sure you can find another lude, is there a reason your heart is set on this one? If they are screwing you this bad already, aren't you worried there might be something more wrong with the car later? Have you had a body shop and another mechanics shop look at the car too? I would suggest if you haven't then you should, you have a right as a consumer to have it checked out before you put your money down. Just two cents from a girl who has been screwed by a dealer before.....
I think get the lude(since you went through all that for it) but i agree ^^ before you put your $ down for it have it checked.
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Sounds like you will have what you want by the end of this, but I am sure if you find other things wrong with it down the road (they will not deal with you at all). I would never take it back to that dealer or shop. I am guessing it is sold as is with no warranty?

Once you get the car, I would go thru it you know, like drive it locally don't take any long trips in it just yet. Get it up on ramps check everything over underneath the car, change the oil, filters, maybe even a tune up. But don't do all that right away drive it for a bit to see how its doing. Make sure it doesn't over heat, brakes aren't jumping all over the place (warped rotors) allignment and make sure thread is wearing evenly. That sort of stuff. Good Luck with it.
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how longs it been again u said 3 weeks? damn man lol banks usually dont hold on to contract thats long.. my banks hea in az only hold them for about 10 -15 days. and my special deals about a month after that i either have to call the customers back and have them recontract cause of some bs the finace couldnt approve or something. most likey if they waiting that long ur deal hasnt been approved. n they gonna nail u with saying well i cant get u done or would u like another car. or give this much more $ those 3 options. i hope ur deal goes threw and all. u know ur finace companys name by any chance? oh and also about the repairs and all u should ALWAYS get a written note or something stating they gonna do repairs or give u this and that. 1st tho follow up on the finace company and dealer make sure the deal went threw. if not they gonna tell u Blah this and that. n then u gonna be like wtf? n be 1 heated customer..
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n also about ur trade cuz i saw u said u had one ^^ they did the apprasel and everything on it when u traded it in they should have had it serviced threw there mechanics too see say the repairs it needs and how much its gonna $. then they would have gave u "well this is wat i can give u for ur car" then u argue with him from there lol. but if hes saying well this and that 1000$ to replace it. FK him dont even worry about it cuz u have papers signed and all that and already the price they say they was gonna give u for the car. so if they ever come back with some bs cuz most likey (HOpe NOt) but when a deal takes for ever they either tell u well we gonna need some more $ Down or maybe something that we can finace lil cheaper. They Never gOnna Tell u about cancelling cuz they wanna make money.. but then again its alittle tricky when u do that. let me tell u something if YOu Fk up the contract Ur Fked. say if u call the finace company and said well this and that. i dont want it or its taking for ever forget it. UR voiding the contract. Meaning NO $ for u n ur trade??! theres a 50% chance u wont get it back. ok? if They Cant Get You Done and all u have been is a respectful customer. then they just gonna unwind the deal and be like sry most likey they probably charge u with like Mileage u put on ur car. but give u ur trade back.. other then that dude dont be stupid. i have some fk tards at my dealer that make **** go back when i Tell them LItTerally In there face. dont do this.. n its like talking to a fken brick wall. just yesterday i had a idiot call the cops also and he fked him self over calling the finace and canceling the deal and all.cops told him they cant do **** that its a "civil judgement" they they gotta take them to court.. which is basically a waste of time and $ cuz theres papers signed.. so PLeases dont be a idiot !
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Oh its all good dude! i got the car hehe :) I was going to post pictures on sunday but my gd laptop started acting up and i ended u preturning it, so now i have no computer at home for a while...=\

They were trying to give it to me from the rear! i had a 30k approved loan through my federal credit union, so the money wasn't a problem they were just lagging it because i think they realized they had sold me a car that was worth 10 for 6k....when i went i told them i wanted it and i told them to paint a new things and give me the side moldings that go on the doors and also a roof top molding, they said ok, we made the contract, i got 1.6k for my car and with the added 500 dollars for the repairs my car came out to 5858.93( with out the repairs it'd of been 5300...) so the car gets painted and stuff and then it comes back to them and they're like" damn it looks almost new" etc etc, basically realizing that all it needed was some tlc, so after that things start to get slow" come get it tomorrow...oh your registration will be ready on monday....ooh we havent gotten the moldings they'll come tomorrow.." etc etc had me going back and forth for 3 weeks, they also owed me a check for 220 for a clutch replacement cause i made them sign a contract that gave me 90 days on drive train and engine in which we'd go 50 50 if anything happened...as soon as i got my hands on it i took it to a mechanic and they said it needs a new clutch, so they were lagging on the money too...finally after i threaten to cancel because they had no done the repairs by the stated date in the written contract( 10 08 07) and for suspesion of theft and fraud they started to take care of things. i had been extremely polite going back and forth and just agreeing to come back but that day i pretty much told them off and they got scared cause i waved the check at them, i had it ready since friday of the previous week....so they lied to my face a bunch of times on how no dealer or after market store had my moldings and how they had never said this or said that and i'm like "look at this paper, you signed it, wtf are you talking about?!" etc etc so by the 25 i believe i had everything that i wanted except for a small repair on my driver side A pillar, which i made another contract for with a signed witness and four co workers that heard and saw what i said to him( i made him come to my work this time instead of me going) so he signed the new contract gave me my moldings( which i found, i took me 5 minutes to call a dealer 6 miles from here and took it to their face,lol) so i got my car looking like new for under 500 bucks hehe

But yeah, my advice, no offence to you, TREAT A USED CAR DEALER LIKE THEYRE THE ENEMY AND YOUR CAR IS A HOSTAGE AND YOURE JUST NEGOTIATING GETTING IT BACK! seriously =\
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^ exactly. it's like tryin to take a cheeseburger away from oprah. haha
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Thanks rob, i did all that...its running great, no oil leaks, the brakes make a noise but they are wearing evenly and brake excellent, the belts are all good, i put in new spark plugs and made sure my fluids were topped off, i put a bit of lubricant on my serpentine belts cause they were making noise and now they're perfect, an oil change is coming up in about 2 weeks, i've almost put 2000 miles on it already, sheesh! air filter in about a month....the alignment is perfect, the tires have alot of thread and arent unevenly warn, i don't over turn and neither did the previous owner because theres no rubbing wear on the inner side of the tires....i'm happy i just really want to steam clean the interior lol, its tan and it looks kinda dirty but the previous owner took really good care of the car because everything is really taken care of, except for a complete engine clean up he left the car alone and kept it completely stock, the only "mode" its got is the iridium spark plugs i just put in....i doubt it'll be doing anything else soon except for maybe a sway bar, new car, rotor and wires, possible k%n filter...i want the car to give me the best gas mileage possible and a k%n might open up the car too much and make it waste a bit more gas with minimal/unnoticed power gains
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Yeah littlefoot so far its been worth it- the price for it is SUPER dirt cheap for the condition its in and it drives great ...omg i just looked out my windows and the while street is under fog, whoa....but anyway two days prior to my threat of cancelling the contract, i looked around for other preludes, acura integra's and even the subaru and lancer that i wanted and at a price comparison nothing came close...this thing is clean, soooo clean i'll find a way to post pictures to you guys so you can check it out but thanks for the warning :)
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Thanks alot guys!
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