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I have to go to Florida for work reasons, problem is car is burning oil. I have done everything in the oil thread to stop any leaks, still burning through it. I think its valves cause only get smoke when first starting after idling. Other than that car runs fantastic. The issue is I don't have money or time now to do major over haul since I have to be in Florida in couple weeks max.The car uses full synthetic, and I of course will carry few quarts with me as I drive and check levels often. Any other advice anyone can offer to help ease my mind as i drive these 1000 miles, any additives or anything to help.
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Re: Burning oil and have to take long trip

Oil Information and Myths busted.

Run conventional high mileage oil. Cheaper and you'll use less of it.
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Re: Burning oil and have to take long trip

Him switching back to dino oil will just make him burn even more oil. Synthetic oil tolerates heat better and won't burn as much as conventional does.
What weight are you using? 5W-30? get 10W-40 as the thicker oil will not burn as easily as the thinner oil. Just keep some qt's in the trunk and check the level whenever you get the chance.
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Re: Burning oil and have to take long trip

Read the thread joseph.
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Re: Burning oil and have to take long trip

Lucas Oil Stabilizer

It'll slow it down, stop engaging vtec, the whole process consumes oil naturally
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Re: Burning oil and have to take long trip

I did, didn't see anywhere where it said dino oil burns less then synthetic. It's been proven numerous times that synthetic oil can handle higher heat then dino oil. Synthetic oil is superior to dino oil, provides better lubrication, keeps the engine cleaner, burns less, and lasts longer oil change intervals.
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Re: Burning oil and have to take long trip

Been using 5/30 going to change oil before I go and will switch to 10/40, staying with the synthetic , new PCV , though this one seems fine. What about this stuff next oil change to add LIQUI MOLY - Motor Oils, Additives, Car Care - Products - Motor Oil Saver
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I did, didn't see anywhere where it said dino oil burns less then synthetic. It's been proven numerous times that synthetic oil can handle higher heat then dino oil. Synthetic oil is superior to dino oil, provides better lubrication, keeps the engine cleaner, burns less, and lasts longer oil change intervals.
Guess you skipped over the high mileage part.....

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I remember my first thread, asking what a noise was when I got going 110mph.
Pretty much got flamed for driving like a jackass and was told to slow down. And I'll be damned, slowing down fixed it.

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Truth be told, there is no fly by night solution for oil consumption but engine repairs. If you choose an additive after the repair, that will extend the engine life. If people just did the routine changes and keep a oil journal, their ownership experience would be a hell of a lot better.
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Re: Burning oil and have to take long trip

I understand that but who knows what the previous owners did. I do know he was pretty much an idiot cause of all the little stupid things I have done to get the car back to original. just have to take it easy on trip
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Exactly who i'm talking about. "Beaters" should only "look" beat. Then again a rescue from time to time from unknowing people is good too.
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Truth be told, there is no fly by night solution for oil consumption but engine repairs. If you choose an additive after the repair, that will extend the engine life. If people just did the routine changes and keep a oil journal, their ownership experience would be a hell of a lot better.
Agree 100%. There are no shortcuts to oil consumption.

However with that said... based on experience and a stickied thread to drive the point home based on the original question....
High mileage oil helps seal the leaks some and has anti-burnoff additives. Conventional oil does not slip past the micro gaps as readily as synthetic.
Therefore the combination of the two should result in a tad bit less consumption on a long trip.

If the question were based on best friction and not on consumption, my answer would have been different.

By the way, John Force used dino oil in his car with a 5000 hp motor that went 0-60 in the span of a yard stick. So dudes car should certainly make it to Florida and back if he doesn't abuse his motor any further.
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If gaskets are going... These will buy you some time till replacement

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If the problem is rings, seals, or combination of the two. Get them replaced.
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Re: Burning oil and have to take long trip

I did read the high mileage portion. Its talking about "high mileage" oils in general over oils that aren't high mileage. Not Dino vs synthetic. And the op is burning oil not leaking. So even though sythentic does clean the sludge and sometimes makes the seals leak because of that that isn't his issue. I never said Dino oil was bad but its been proven that synthetic oil is far much better and better for the life of your engine. Telling someone to switch from synthetic to Dino is like telling someone to give away a $100 bill for a $10 dollar bill in return. There's no benefits and your getting a lesser quality product.
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Dino oil is fine. Dino oil is less expensive. And when I switched to high mileage dino oil my H22 that used to go through a $9 quart of synthetic in about 20 hours of running time, oil loss nearly ceased.
High mileage castrol conventional dropped my consumption next to none. When I owned the car it was monitored by hours because it was only short albiet fast trips. My son drives it on the open road often.
Since June the car has 1500 miles and has used 1 $6 quart.
There are no more leaks and burnoff is practically gone. Also the pcv quit having oil ooze out of the spectre filter. With synthetic, it stayed wet with oil.

If the motor is sludged, don't make a switch. But mine was honey golden when shining a flasklight into the valve cover via the oil filler hole.
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A qt loss in 20 hours of use? That's weird. I run fully synthetic and don't burn a drop of oil. Engines vary I guess. If the engine is sludged up your screwed with synthetic or dino oil, either way that's a unhealthy engine that wasn't taken cared of.
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Yep 20 hours. They were tough hours. Lots of idling at red lights until reaching the countryside. Once in the country side the suspension got a good work out, I got a cheap thrill for 20 minutes then back through the city for more red light idling, then back to the driveway where it sat until the next opportunity to mimic Mr. Senna was available.
The furthest I drove the car was when I put new tires on it but by then the dino oil was being used.

I gave the car to my son and started driving a 3g with 200+k on the motor. It smoked due to valve seals so I dumped the synthetic from that motor and use high mileage pennzoil with about 4oz of stp oil treatment, for the zinc. Too much zinc is bad for the cat convertor. But I try to mimic the sg or sh grade oil that was common when the car was new. The smoking stopped, the valve chatter quiet-ed and the car runs fine. Don't know about oil consumption on that one due to a plethora of leaks.

My preludes are joy ride cars that go out to play on special occasions and don't venture far from home. Years ago we'd dump 50 weight oil in the crankcase, but that was big bore, steel block motors that didn't go kaplewee with a little extra heat from the thick oil. Batteries were 750cca or better so cold starts weren't an issue.

Todays oils whether mineral, dino or plastic are designed for less pollutants. Much of the stuff that naturally protected moving parts are gone and replaced with detergents and $h!t that they say protects your engine. It protects todays engines that were designed for this garbage we call oil. But when our cars were new the oil had products that coated moving parts with friction inhibitors. Moly and zinc are all but gone in the typical oils.
With that said... hig, do some research and find out which viscocity oils have been loop holed from the typical emission reducing features and find a grade that still uses some zinc.
I'm switching to valvoline max life on my next oil change. It has some moly and some zinc similar to oils from the 90's, but they've figured out how to keep the moly suspended better so it won't clog the journals over time (they say). My motor is due for a rebuild so if the moly still gets stuck in small places I'm ok with that. But if it don't, that's a little more life to a tired old B21.

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Re: Burning oil and have to take long trip

Mike you know I refuse to use high mileage oil? For the simple reason you can't assume the PO of your whip was nice enough to stick to one brand of oil, and since everybody uses a different detergent formula, some don't mix with others and congeal faster. Dino blend has the most forgiving of both synth and dino. I use just mobil special or mobil 5000 for the GMC and mobil full synth for Mona, with wix/napa filters. No real issues.

If you're burning oil like that Mike, the lucas oil stabilizer should help you out some. But flush the motor with 1 quart of MMO for 100 miles, then do the oil change. It'll break up a lot of junk safely.
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Re: Burning oil and have to take long trip

The maxlife I spoke of is a blend. My 95 ranger with it's mazda 2.3 litre has always had vavoline in the crankcase. So I already know that's good oil. Ima switch to max life in the red car to see if it stays brown longer. Oil in a B21 motor turns black real fast. That's typical.

The po of rattlin red is my neighbor who was the second owner. The original owner was his brothers wife. They used pennzoil exclusively since it was new.
It commuted until 97 when owner 1 divorced owner 2's no good sister in law. He sold it to owner 2 whos wife putted around in it until he'd spent more money on it in a year than I paid for it. They only put like 50k miles in the 16 years they had it. I've put like 400 since May. And changed the oil twice.

Now if I can ever get black betty to cooperate, that motor will get the flush you speak of. I call that the miracle motor. More troubled stories on that one than I care to remember. But yet it still purrs like a kitten and loses/uses no oil.
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Glad you know where your cars came from. So used to dealing with anonymous NYC, that a car with 25k miles from a private owner is suspect
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Guess I've been fortunate all these years. But most of my vehicles were purchased from the original owner or 2nd. Usually when they were tired of sinking money into them. I've paid $1500 for $800 cars many times simply because they'd been taken care of and most of the work was done already.
I've also been fortunate to have old school hot rod experts for coworkers over the last 30 years.

My most recent supervisor has a pontiac firehawk with like 2000 miles on it. He built a climate controlled garage for it. He also raises cows and grows wheat.
A former supervisor does world class restorations on early 60's chevys n fords. The type you see at barret-jackson. He has a 63 vette he calls the bucket of bolts. It's the kind of car most would hope to achieve someday. He also has a grandfather clock from martinsville speedway where his car beat richard petty and bobby allison in like '73.
They school me from time to time. And because prelude, eeeeeevery now n then I get to school them these days. You n Ogs have instrumental in that Chris.


The black 91 and 97 were impulse buys from strangers and unknown histories. Each time was with the intention of full restorations. And each time they've had their share of ghost and gremlin issues.
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