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97 H22A4 DOHC Timing Belt Installation

I have a 97 H22A4 DOHC. I just did the head gasket and now I'm stuck on getting the timing belt back on. The problem is that I'm out of money and can't afford to buy the tool to remove the crankshaft pulley (I have yet to find anywhere that rents it). I need a shortcut to get the timing belt back on and get around getting to the auto tensioner. Any suggestions? Will I absolutely have to remove the pulley and get to the tensioner?

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Re: 97 H22A4 DOHC Timing Belt Installation

What did you do - cut the old belt?



The tool is less than $10 on ebay. Be sure it's the correct size for your motor. I can't recall what mine is off the top of my head.



The auto tensioner should be replaced, and that needs a tool as well.


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Re: 97 H22A4 DOHC Timing Belt Installation

I didn't cut the belt, when I took the head off to do the gasket, I just pushed it to the side. When I got the head back on I was hoping to just find some shortcut to get the belt over the cam pulleys without having to get the covers off and mess with the auto tensioner. I'll have to check for the procedures, but do you have any idea of a shortcut to bypass all that?
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Re: 97 H22A4 DOHC Timing Belt Installation

Dunno how you "pushed it to the side" as you so describe it, but you have a bigger issue. You need to TDC the cams and make sure the belt marker matches the TDC teeth on the cam gears. No shortcut: you need to remove the covers, reinstall the belt, and change the timing cover gasket.

Sorry about your financial situation, but no one here is gonna give you bad advice and "bypass" all that. If it was meant to be bypassed, that would be the only instructions in the service manuals.
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Re: 97 H22A4 DOHC Timing Belt Installation

Ok cool. Sounds good. I set everything TDC before I pulled it all apart. When I removed the head, I just slid the timing belt off the pulleys once everything was set to TDC. I pushed the belt out of the way and got the head out. That's what I meant. The manual tensioner is basically a necessary exchange I take it?
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Re: 97 H22A4 DOHC Timing Belt Installation

If you were able to slide the belt off - you need to replace the auto tensioner. It should never bee loose enough to slide at all.



You don't have to do a manual tensioner conversion - There is nothing wrong with using a NEW auto tensioner. Just most prefer the manual conversion. Never re-use an auto!!!



You will also have to set the balance shafts to the proper marks and re-install that when you get the crank pulley off.
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Re: 97 H22A4 DOHC Timing Belt Installation

Ok awesome! This is good information. What's worth the investment in the long run? Auto or manual?
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Re: 97 H22A4 DOHC Timing Belt Installation

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Ok awesome! This is good information. What's worth the investment in the long run? Auto or manual?


When auto tensioners fail, they basically destroy the entire motor.
Where-as I've hardly ever even heard of a manual tensioner failing.

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Re: 97 H22A4 DOHC Timing Belt Installation

Just ordered my manual tensioner conversion with a belt from Kstuned for $150 ...the way to go IMO
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Just ordered my manual tensioner conversion with a belt from Kstuned for $150 ...the way to go IMO

manual tensioner kit should cost $79.00 with everything included, was the belt you ordered "gold plated"

you got the Kstuned one, were you able to get the LE Black one.
watched there video and as soon as I heard the guy say "H23 manual tensioner kit was a pain to install" it made me laugh. (what a joke)

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manual tensioner kit should cost $79.00 with everything included, was the belt you ordered "gold plated"

you got the Kstuned one, were you able to get the LE Black one.
watched there video and as soon as I heard the guy say "H23 manual tensioner kit was a pain to install" it made me laugh. (what a joke)
well there tensioner is $99 on their site direct. $150 with the belt ....really not worried about 10 bucks here or there

"Included in this package is a Gates timing belt. Don't waste your money on a blue "racing" timing belt, buy from the company who supplies the OEM's. This is a good, quality belt with a warranty." (quoted off their site)
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Re: 97 H22A4 DOHC Timing Belt Installation

Shortcut you say?

Dynamite. Gets that sucker loose every time!!!

Some folks use GOOD STURDY vice grips with a death grip mode and rotate the pulley a bit until a 1/2" breaker bar is inserted in as a wedge, then other 1/2 breaker bar with 6' pipe and 6 side impact socket pulling the opposite way. All that's presuming you have the large 'vice grip' brand tool and a pair of 1/2" breakers... otherwise it's less expensive to buy the proper pulley grabber tool.
But you still need a breaker bar, pipe and socket with the grabber tool.
And wd40 the h3ll outta that bolt and leave it overnight. It's real, real tight.
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Gates/Dayco/gatorback.

Going any lesser brand reflects on the owner.

Always botherd by replacing belts vs strecthed timing chains... Imma buy a car with titanium gears system or some sillyness
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well there tensioner is $99 on their site direct. $150 with the belt ....really not worried about 10 bucks here or there

"Included in this package is a Gates timing belt. Don't waste your money on a blue "racing" timing belt, buy from the company who supplies the OEM's. This is a good, quality belt with a warranty." (quoted off their site)
When I did my timing belt I chose to get all OEM parts, link to the manual tensioner swap I got is below:
Manual Tensioner Conversion...

Also changed:
Timing Belt
Balancer Belt
Alternator/AC Belt
Power Steering Belt
Crank Seal/Front Main Seal(40x52x7)
Cam Shaft Seal(2PX5.69)Timing Belt Area
Front Balance Shaft Seal (27x40x8)
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Valve Cover Gasket Kit (grommets, tube seals)
Cam Seal/Plug (passenger side of head) should have got the Golden Eagle Cam Seal instead
Balance Shaft Retaining Clip
Water Pump with Gasket

When using the manual tensioner parts in the link above you may also want to order a Balance Shaft Tension Spring. As for the install it's pretty basic, try not to tension the Balancer belt to much/not at all or you'll be getting this annoying sound after everything is put together.

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Re: 97 H22A4 DOHC Timing Belt Installation

Again, there is nothing wrong with using a new auto tensioner. No need to make this more complicated than need be.


Also, for those recommending a KS tensioner... how many have you all installed, and have you ever gone back to check the tension? If not more than once each, don't recommend the product.
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Re: 97 H22A4 DOHC Timing Belt Installation

97H22A4,

I noticed that you're in Akron, OH. Oreilly Auto rents the tool for a few bucks, and it works great. It appears that you have three Oreillys in your area.

As for breaking it loose, I had to use a 1/2" drive socket with about 1.5ft of Craftsman extensions (any cheap ones will twist off...ask how I know :) to get the breaker bar past the fender, then support a breaker bar with a jackstand (because the extensions are so long you can't get good force on it otherwise), and as long of a pipe as you can find.

NOTE: ALWAYS use a rag or something soft when you're pushing on the breaker bar. My crank pulley bolt cracked loose so hard that it sent a shock through my hand that made my hand sore for 2 weeks...no joke. So be careful.

And btw, I went with a Kaizenspeed tensioner. I had it adjusted a little snug at first and the timing belt whined a little until it was broken in. Haven't had it all off to check it since. I also did the same seals, etc. that blacklud did while I was in there.
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Am I the only one who said f*ck the KS speed tensioner and made my own?
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Am I the only one who said f*ck the KS speed tensioner and made my own?
yes lol. how is it working out for you? how many miles have you put on it?
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yes lol. how is it working out for you? how many miles have you put on it?
So far only 30, but I'll make sure to update and post pics. So far its holding up fine and it makes a timing belt job super easy.
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