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Old 10-22-2013, 11:22 PM
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Auto Transmission Unaswered Q's

*Just for reference I have a 2000 Prelude auto base model

I've been searching not only this site but Google as well for answers to my questions and have found very little info pertaining to what I am looking for. My auto tranny recently gave out on me so i'm weighing my options from here.

1-Rebuild
2-junkyard replacement
3-5 speed swap

Right now i'm kinda ruling out the junkyard replacement b/c there's still a high chance that that one will give out on me sooner rather than later and i'll be right back to where i'm at now. Looks like junkyards charge around $1000 give or take for used trannys.

I'm leaning toward the rebuild but I cant seem to find the shops or companies that have the reputation for doing the best job. I've seen "Howard Engineering" mentioned but from what i've read, they charge $3700 for a rebuild (seems high) I've heard of swaps being done for less than that price. I've read a lot about warning against having just any old local shop do the rebuild because many claim it's not done properly and fails again. For that reason, i'd prefer to just purchase a tranny that's rebuilt and then all my shop has to do is put it in (not actually put it together)-i feel confident they could handle that much. Other than Howard I have absolutely no idea about the pricing for a rebuilt tranny.

That being said, I havn't ruled out the swap i just simply cant find enough info about the it. I have seen a couple different build threads with pictures along the way but that's not really what I need. I don't have the time for this in-depth of a DIY project so having a shop do the swap is my only option.



So basically what i'm asking is this:

-Where can I find a quality rebuilt auto tranny? (or where can i send my own to GET rebuilt) Company names please

-How much will the above cost me?

-What's well-known shop that can do a 5 spd swap (the right way)? and how much does that set ya back?



I appreciate any help or insight you all can give me. Like i said i did quite a bit of searching already but that doesn't mean i didn't miss something. Just point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:12 AM
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5 speed swap will end up being the best bet imo
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X2 ^^^

Shop around your town there in Kentucky bro.
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Re: Auto Transmission Unaswered Q's

Truth: autos will fail. No real way around this, assume 45k miles life expectancy and every mile after is a blessing. DON'T EVER USE THE + or -.

In the long run (depends on you) manual swap will eliminate the failing. If you don't see putting another 45-70k in miles on your prelude, the auto will be fine.
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Re: Auto Transmission Unaswered Q's

5spd swap, cheapest and best long term option.

And that price is not bad for rebuilding a. Auto trans.... Do you know what's inside an auto trans?? It's complicated, leave it at that.
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Re: Auto Transmission Unaswered Q's

I watched a guy rebuild mine one time. It looked amazingly simple.
But then again so does a wrist watch. Or brain surgery.

Dude made it look easy. But all those springs, gears, o-rings and clutches have to be assembled exactly right or it's a 50# boat anchor. If you know how it's very profitable. Very. But how many people can re-build a giant wrist watch?

Apparently Honda got the engineering wrong on some of the inner workings and never re-designed corrective parts.
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Re: Auto Transmission Unaswered Q's

Update: I've done some shopping around since I created the thread.

-One of the highest regarded shops in town quoted me $2300 for a rebuild. Problem with them is even though they're known for quality work as a transmission shop in general, they haven't done a lot with the Prelude tranny so having them do it would make me nervous about how well it was done.

Also, the warranty they include is only up to 1 year or 12,000miles.

-After that i figured i'd call my local Honda dealership and see if they even fix our transmissions anymore (or at the very least, see who they would refer me to.) Well, they still fix em and as you would imagine, their price was higher.

They charge $3500 for the transmission and $1100 for labor but they do give you a rebate for the faulty tranny. The guy couldn't give me a exact price for how much i'd get back for it but gave me a ballpark number of $500. All of this comes with a 3 year warranty on it though so that's a bright spot. But anyway, after the assumed $500 i'd get back, your looking at $4100.


Still not sure what i'll be doing but just thought i'd share.
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Update: I've done some shopping around since I created the thread.

-One of the highest regarded shops in town quoted me $2300 for a rebuild. Problem with them is even though they're known for quality work as a transmission shop in general, they haven't done a lot with the Prelude tranny so having them do it would make me nervous about how well it was done.

Also, the warranty they include is only up to 1 year or 12,000miles.

-After that i figured i'd call my local Honda dealership and see if they even fix our transmissions anymore (or at the very least, see who they would refer me to.) Well, they still fix em and as you would imagine, their price was higher.

They charge $3500 for the transmission and $1100 for labor but they do give you a rebate for the faulty tranny. The guy couldn't give me a exact price for how much i'd get back for it but gave me a ballpark number of $500. All of this comes with a 3 year warranty on it though so that's a bright spot. But anyway, after the assumed $500 i'd get back, your looking at $4100.


Still not sure what i'll be doing but just thought i'd share.
In my area, you could buy a 5th gen Lude manual (running) for $1500, even if it has high mileage, you can use the car as a donor for an auto to manual swap.
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Update: I've done some shopping around since I created the thread.

-One of the highest regarded shops in town quoted me $2300 for a rebuild. Problem with them is even though they're known for quality work as a transmission shop in general, they haven't done a lot with the Prelude tranny so having them do it would make me nervous about how well it was done.

Also, the warranty they include is only up to 1 year or 12,000miles.

-After that i figured i'd call my local Honda dealership and see if they even fix our transmissions anymore (or at the very least, see who they would refer me to.) Well, they still fix em and as you would imagine, their price was higher.

They charge $3500 for the transmission and $1100 for labor but they do give you a rebate for the faulty tranny. The guy couldn't give me a exact price for how much i'd get back for it but gave me a ballpark number of $500. All of this comes with a 3 year warranty on it though so that's a bright spot. But anyway, after the assumed $500 i'd get back, your looking at $4100.


Still not sure what i'll be doing but just thought i'd share.

i had mine done for 2500. 4100 they just said
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Re: Auto Transmission Unaswered Q's

My rebuild on my auto cost me 1500$ with labor. I'm 38k miles later and its still running fine.
Never understood the logic of not using the tiptronic but I use it 100% of the time. I find that I can control the rpm to shift point much better and can ease off the throttle when i shift keeping things nice and smooth. Its in D that it will jerk if it shifts at an unexpected moment.
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Re: Auto Transmission Unaswered Q's

Been a while since I got on here. I recently went up to Cincinnati to possibly buy a Prelude with engine trouble. My plan was to use it as a parts car in order to do a 5 spd swap. He wanted 2k for but i talked him down to 1500. In the pictures, it looked like it was actually in good shape. Decently low miles (130k), had the oem lip kit on it that i have been wanting, an intake, lowering springs, oem spoiler..etc. In other words i would have gotten more than just a tranny out of it so the 1600 for it seemed like a great price.

So i make the drive up there (2hrs) and as it turns out, its a piece...

As we all know, the car usually looks better in the pictures but this guy was on a whole other level with how sneaky he was with them. Interior look like a 9/10 from what he sent me. In person, it was hardly a 5. Door pocket was broken on both sides, trim was peeling, dash was faded, seats were worn, door handles chipped to hell...you get the picture. Same goes for the outside. All of those parts i mentioned before were in awful shape. Lip kit was scraped up and held on by zip ties, spoiler was cracked...everything sucked.

For a moment i still considered getting it for the tranny (since that was the whole point to start with) but the car wasn't running so i couldnt feel it out plus, taking a look at the engine bay convinced me no part of this car was worth saving. Oil on everything, more zip ties, and rust to go along with it.

So long story short, i lost about $100 or so between gas and renting a dolly to haul it home but there was no way i was taking it home with me. I still think getting a parts car is the way to go, just gotta keep hunting.
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Try contacting a local Pull a Part. Mine has a list you can get on and specify what car you want. When one comes in they call you. I did it, waited almost 3 months and got everything off the car for the swap for under $300. Granted I had to pull it all off. But even after a bunch of new stuff to go with it all I still wont be spending over $1200. And thats with a new starter and Mishimoto radiator too.
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