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Looked around the forum everywhere, but couldn't find someone with a problem like Im having. My left turn signal on the cluster stays barely lit, but comes and goes. When the left turn signal on the dash is lit the left rear turn signal is stuck ON. I put a new turn signal switch and still have the problem. I pulled the flasher out and put back in and it fixed the problem for one day, but now its back again. Any information would be greatly appreciated before I get pulled over:(
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Are you getting water in your housing on the left side?
Sounds like a short... duh, but I wonder if your wiring was jacked to install fog lamps... ie did somebody split into the wiring to run fogs or a radio perhaps..

Do you have a repair manual? Pdf available for download in the diy section.
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Are you getting water in your housing on the left side?
Sounds like a short... duh, but I wonder if your wiring was jacked to install fog lamps... ie did somebody split into the wiring to run fogs or a radio perhaps..

Do you have a repair manual? Pdf available for download in the diy section.
Im no mechanic by any means lol. I was just looking for some input if someone else has had the same problem. The car does have 2 sets of fog lights on it? There is condensation on the driver taillight, but put a new bulb in yesterday?
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Moisture could be shorting out the system.
You change the bulb because it was bad? Or just to try n see if that was the cause?

Part changer myself. But have had a few cars with tail light/head light short due to water.
Sometimes crappy ground in the bulb holder will cause issues as well...

A nagging 'bulb out' lamp on the dash of my son's 91 was solved by replacing a recepticle in the tail light.
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Moisture could be shorting out the system.
You change the bulb because it was bad? Or just to try n see if that was the cause?

Part changer myself. But have had a few cars with tail light/head light short due to water.
Sometimes crappy ground in the bulb holder will cause issues as well...

A nagging 'bulb out' lamp on the dash of my son's 91 was solved by replacing a recepticle in the tail light.
I changed bulb just thinking it was the bulb:( Ill check bulb holder tomorrow. Would it just be burnt looking or?
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Re: More Help Please:)

like bykfixer said, there could be a "short" in the wiring if someone poorly spliced into the OEM wiring of the turn signals to run the fog light wiring. locate the wiring for the turn signal, or whichever lamp is poorly lit, and check for a spliced in wire, will look somewhat like this:


notice how the one wire turns into 2 after the electrical tape, those are quick splices that i used awhile back, but you could find anything from that, to just wires wrapped around eachother, etc. what you would be looking for is a connection like that in which is unprotected.

if the water is getting in, it will cause corrosion, which will cause more resistance in the wire causing lower output for the lamps. A short would most likely blow the fuse and then have end result of no output, so thats why i figure this.

If this is the case, then all you have to do is cut the wire back a few inches at a time where you see no corroded wires, for each wire upon connection, reconnect each wire that were connected, back together the same using whichever way you feel like using... solder being the most "professional" way to do so. once that is done, wrap good with electrical tape or heat shrink tubing to prevent future water damage leading to corrosion again. make sure if you go with heat shrink tubing that you slide it on before connecting your wires otherwise youll be hitting yourself in the head lol.

good luck, let us know what you find, and the outcome.
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Re: More Help Please:)

I wanna say it was cruddy looking where the bulb made contact... grey-ish looking residue. Maybe rust.
I think we cleaned a few times but eventualy got a new one...

But if it's a short, yes it would likely be at least a little burnt looking.
I'm not familiar with 5th bulbs. I owned one for about a half year but no bulbs failed.

Push in type or twist type for the tail lights?
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Re: More Help Please:)

@95:
I found some waterproof electrical tape at home depot. Like 10 yards for like $5. It was pricey but bad@$s stuff. It's not sticky at all... until you touch it to itself.. then it's on... for good.
Hard to explain, but when you touch it to a wire it don't stick like normal. But a slight wrap, pinching it over itself to start. From there it's the darndest thing. Wrap away and it's just like shrink seal. But it starts out as an unsticky tape!!!
Stretches like mad, like 6" piece stretches to like 9" w/ no issue.

Nashua stretch & seal silicone tape.
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Holy Wires Batman!. lol I don't know much about this stuff. Im probably going to have to have someone find the problem for me and probably wont be cheap:(
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its not gonna look like that lol, that was an example, and its simpler than you think... can also save you a ton of money...

that was head unit wiring, and i was wiring a gauge to the constant, switched and ground.

yours however will be very simple, there will be 3 wires, you have no need of knowledge as to which one is which, you are checking for corrosion, or damage of some sort to the wiring...

the 3 wires will be constant power, switched power, which sends signals to the light to flicker on and off as signal is running, and ground.

which while we are on ground, you may have a bad ground... check the black wire for and crimps, open wires, etc.

doing this easy job yourself will save you at minimum $100 in my area... which is what they charge to diagnose the problem...
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What happened to changing the turn signal switch flasher fuse for new??

Those things go bad.

If you discover spliced lines, use splice crimps. Tape up the connections so the don't budge, crimp the wires, then tape the splice. Don't be cheap with the tape, it's gotta last.
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its not gonna look like that lol, that was an example, and its simpler than you think... can also save you a ton of money...

that was head unit wiring, and i was wiring a gauge to the constant, switched and ground.

yours however will be very simple, there will be 3 wires, you have no need of knowledge as to which one is which, you are checking for corrosion, or damage of some sort to the wiring...

the 3 wires will be constant power, switched power, which sends signals to the light to flicker on and off as signal is running, and ground.

which while we are on ground, you may have a bad ground... check the black wire for and crimps, open wires, etc.

doing this easy job yourself will save you at minimum $100 in my area... which is what they charge to diagnose the problem...


So you think I should check the wiring to my head unit?
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What happened to changing the turn signal switch flasher fuse for new??

Those things go bad.

If you discover spliced lines, use splice crimps. Tape up the connections so the don't budge, crimp the wires, then tape the splice. Don't be cheap with the tape, it's gotta last.
If I could figure out which one that is? Do you have a photo of it?
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No lol not your head unit wiring..... Check the wiring to whatever is not working properly... In your case the wiring to your turn signal correct??

I was saying its simpler than the wiring you see in my pic because you will only have 3 wires to check....
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https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wuxxw6h1pjbqwvx/s05SQb4Nnw

^^ click on the link above. A download of a 5th gen repair manual will begin.
Store it on the big screen computer for indoor studying. Store on a portable to have handy when in the can or under the hood etc trying to figure out what's what.

Chapter 23 is everything electrical.
- Pages 18 to 20 have the front left harness.
Example number C317 is an optional fog lamp connection. C318 is the left turn signal.

- Pages 28&29 explain the wires in the dash. Numbers correspond with items.
Example C565 is the clock wire. Find it and follow it in the picture.

- Pages 30&31 show the rear wiring.
Example C604 is right tail light.

- Begining at page 85 there are diagnoses to the signals and lights.

Hope this helps. Most of the vets here wouldn't wish wiring dilemas on their enemy. Tough stuff for certain. Maybe you and a buddy can put your heads together. But study the diagrams on a big screen then go find the connections you need to check. Then check back if need be.
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https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wuxxw6h1pjbqwvx/s05SQb4Nnw

^^ click on the link above. A download of a 5th gen repair manual will begin.
Store it on the big screen computer for indoor studying. Store on a portable to have handy when in the can or under the hood etc trying to figure out what's what.

Chapter 23 is everything electrical.
- Pages 18 to 20 have the front left harness.
Example number C317 is an optional fog lamp connection. C318 is the left turn signal.

- Pages 28&29 explain the wires in the dash. Numbers correspond with items.
Example C565 is the clock wire. Find it and follow it in the picture.

- Pages 30&31 show the rear wiring.
Example C604 is right tail light.



- Begining at page 85 there are diagnoses to the signals and lights.

Hope this helps. Most of the vets here wouldn't wish wiring dilemas on their enemy. Tough stuff for certain. Maybe you and a buddy can put your heads together. But study the diagrams on a big screen then go find the connections you need to check. Then check back if need be.
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