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Lots of Sh questions

Ok so I wrecked my 2000 base and now im looking at buying a 2000 sh. I have several question first being can I put my Greddy Catback exhaust on the sh from the base. Also can i put my oem lip kit on it. And finally can i put a LSD tranny in the sh.
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Re: Lots of Sh questions

Your down pipe is shorter tha SH. I hear there's an adapter.

Your accents should fit.

No on the LSD. SH is a road handler, not a dragster. Without going into a lot here, the LSD doesn't bolt up to the SH block. If you go with the SH your are limited to mods to got in a straight line faster vs the base, but you own a car that outran all the others in slalom except the vette all 5 years it was made.
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Re: Lots of Sh questions

Ok well lets say your in a situation where you could get an sh or a base both with the same mods, which would you get. And why do people say the sh is hard to mod, what mods are hard to find for it?
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Re: Lots of Sh questions

Well your questions are subjective to opinions. I had an SH and loved it as is. I like zipping down country roads and the high rev capability made downshifting less stressful due to lack of over rev fears.

I un-mod-ed the car. The engineers at honda did a fine job and the mods reduced performance in the name of looking cool.

I hope to obtain another SH someday but chose to focus on the 3g I had. The base is fine but as I said, twisty's are my thing and even without a working atts it handled well.

The SH block is designed around the atts so some items that bolt onto a base won't on the SH. Also once you reach a certain point in power the atts doesn't work so you have a 40# anchor attached.

Based on your questions a base model would probably suit your tastes... first thing on your mind being mods, the SH would likely disappoint.
You can put cool looking gadgets on either but if you want straight line pizzaz the base is for you. IMHO
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Re: Lots of Sh questions

Well seeing as the only mods I plan on doing to it are cool air intake, exhaust, and headers I would think there would be no problem with finding those as well as the ATTS unit handling the small HP gain.

What about lowering the car, I have base lowering springs and I want to take them off and put them on the sh. There should'nt be a problem with that, right?

Also when the engine goes I want to rebuild it and port polish the heads and intake manifold and throw a bigger throttle body in there. I would think all this is possible with the sh and I will probably be riding right at the amout of power the ATTS unit can handle. Am I Wrong??
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Re: Lots of Sh questions

The mods you speak of are where most people get it wrong. I say this not to shock you, disrepect you or cause you any grief.
It's your car so do what you want, however the words below are meant to keep you from following the wrong trail many many a beginner follows in the name of looking cool.
If you intend on looking cool at shows, the cheap stuff will do just fine. If you desire to drive, drive, drive your hot rod and want the best gain for your $ don't follow the conventional wisdom. Me, personally as said before, I go stock for the pure juice available from the factory that was available when these cars were new. My pair of 3g's are way under powered and wabbly by todays standards, but they are a hoot to drive down a 40 mile stretch of open country road.


Examples of where many get it wrong:
Cold air intake. Many-a chrome looking stoopileedoo thing with the wasps nest at the end actually doesn't do squat. The factory air box with a k&n filter or a type s air box does. Unless your cai goes into the fender like oem air box does it draws in hot air from your motor and header. Shop wisely. Good ones are $250+.

Header: The factory one is fine. Most aftermarket you see don't do squat. A good header has all four pipes same length, same bend and heat wrapped or ceramic coated to be the most efficient at expelling the exhaust gas. Good ones are +500.. real good ones are a grand and are custom made to order.

Exhaust: The cool looking pipe may be too restrictive or too free exhausting the gases. I like the thermal research unit but others will do. Again do your research.

Lowering springs assist in the ruining of your shocks and put your passengers in a basketball. Keep your car factory height and if anything stiffen the corners with traction bars. Lowering changes the geometry, not necessarily for the good either. Go with coil over shocks for adjusting ride height and quality of ride. Wheel gap nonsense is over rated. If that bothers you get some 17's and bad@$s gap filling tires.
Sell those lowering springs and use the dough for a good body detail kit. Make that car sparkle.

The atts slings you around corners like a slot car. Think about turning a wheelchair. You begin a left turn, car wants to go straight, atts reduces power to the left wheel with a clutch system, power stays in right wheel, zoom you go, and when you get straight again you wonder how-the-h3ll-come you didn't just crash lol. If the atts is working, you'll love the car as is.

Bigger tb: No need. As you install the correct and most efficient add ons your current tb will handle the extra fuel/air. Unless you add bigger fuel line/pump etc the stock will like your new mods. You can go aftermarket here for style and a modest upsize won't harm you. But too big is a waste of dough.


Read some members rides threads... particularly the stickies. See what they've done. EBPludeSH thread is an example to follow but others have done a fine job at correctly building up their cars.

And remember, these cats have YEARS invested.
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Re: Lots of Sh questions

you can put an LSD trans on an SH but you need to have an ATTS block off plate made with is an adaptor so you can use a half shaft where ATTS bolts up. As far as tuning if you go OBD-1 then you lose your ATTS feature. waste of the reason why they made an SH prelude if you ask me. you can use a greddy emanage to tune it's not really the best but as far as basic stuff as long as you keep it under 250 torque then it will suffice while keeping ATTS but it's not as great as chrome, neptune ECT. now if i were to buy my prelude again i would have gotten a base model just so i would have had more options as far as tuning/transmission like you are thinking about
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