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Is it worth getting VTEC H22 if you'll never go above 5000rpm?

Hi all,

I realise now that the biggest mistake I ever made was selling my 5th gen non-VTEC lude a year ago, so I'm in the market for another one. But this time should I go for the VTEC?

I know both engines (F22B non-VTEC and H22A VTEC) are 2.2L 16V DOHC but does the H22A VTEC have more low-end power/torque than the F22B or do they have the same power and torque curves until VTEC cuts in at 5200 or so rpm.

It's difficult to tell when I'm test driving.

So bearing in mind that I rarely go above 5200rpm, is it worth paying the extra $1000NZ bucks for a VTEC 5th gen?

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Old 10-11-2007, 07:57 PM
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Once you realize what is above 5200rpm I would say yes, it is worth it.
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Old 10-11-2007, 07:58 PM
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oh trust me, you'll hit the vtec cutover. :firedevil:
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Well, you have to realize that both trim levels come with different geared transmissions...so driving the f22B version then going to the h22a version will be different...torque should be relatively the same. HP, dramatic difference...

I say, get the highest end model Prelude you can find. Type S perhaps? Besides, you kiwis have really, really, really, really, really relaxed vehicle laws. take advantage b/c we North Americans can't.
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Hey man. Fellow Kiwi here.

I am not sure if you have ever driven a VTEC engine before. I am guessing that you haven't because if you had your post would have answered itself before you even wrote it!

I was once like you and owned a 3rd Gen, I thought that it had all the power I needed, well when the 3rd Gen left me I moved on, to by pure chance, a 4th Gen VTEC. Let me tell you mate, once you go VTEC you will never go back. Not only is VTEC incredibly enjoyable to tap into, it is also a saftey feature too, imo. The amount of times VTEC has pulled me to safety when passing other cars is uncountable.

Even if you don't use the power of VTEC, it is always better to have more power than not enough. I say pay the extra but shop around. Hitup Trademe, I only paid two grand for my mint condition 1992 Prelude Si-VTEC. A good VTEC 5th Gen should not go any higher than six grand, depending on year ofcourse.

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Thanks for the feedback so far guys but no-one has answered my question - does a H22A have more torque and/or power in low revs than the non-VTEC F22B?
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the h22 is more responsive than the f22b. a f22b will struggle at any rpm point when compared to a h22.
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^^As above.

The NZ spec nonVTEC fifth gen was rated at 118kW/201Nm, whereas the H22 equipped versions had 147kW/212Nm.

And besides, the H22 equpped cars came with a lot more than just the better engine. Bigger brakes, five stud wheels, and I think you guys got the digital climate control as well on the VTiRs, which the nonVTECs didn't have.
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The NZ spec nonVTEC fifth gen was rated at 118kW/201Nm, whereas the H22 equipped versions had 147kW/212Nm
Yes, but those figures are from over 5000rpm, where the H22A will be in VTEC mode which is kinda cheating as most of the time you won't be in VTEC mode. Someone needs to explain in technical terms why the H22A under 5000rpm would be a better engine than the F22B.

Maybe the non-VTEC cam lobes of the H22A are tuned for better response at low rpms, but I suspect they are more likely tuned for economy. This is the kind of response I'm looking for, but with references to technical articles with torque curve diagrams etc to back up your claims.

Has anyone got any real knowledge of this, rather than just blatantly guessing that VTEC=better? Please don't get me wrong - I know you're voicing your opinion and trying to help, but no-one has actually answered the question.

Go on, have another go at answering it!!

Thanks everyone x
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You're right. The smaller lobes in the H22 for pre-VTEC are for economy purposes. The H22 model IMO is better under 5000 because of the gearing. The F22 gears are much longer, and as you know, it has less power, so it's not going to have the pick-up an H22 will have since 1. the H22 has more power and 2. the hearing is shorter. I don't need to explain why the H22 is better for power over 5000.
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I would say go with the Vtec- even though you won't be in "vtec" mode most of the time, your overall rpm performance should be better because you're equipped with a better cylinder head. Either car will respond well bellow 5k rpm, it all depends on how much gas you put in as soon as you start driving. If both cars have the same Revving capabilities, then the performance should be similar. If the non vtec has less revving rpms than the Vtech, which is like 7k before you get to red line- then the lesser revving car should reach higher maximum capacity than a higher revving car- but now take into mind that the higher revving car has more horse power and torque than the other. Personally, I would say go for a Vtec- Its always better to have more than just enough or less. Being able to quickly get out of the way might save your life, who knows, and the vtec can assist you in that. If you want really detail and technical info on the motors I would say you should research them both and then compare some horse power and torque curve charts. Compare to see which one has the maximum power and torque out put, check the rpm's and see which one you'd rather go with
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