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About to have some maintenance work done

It's been a little over 10 months since I bought my 2001 SH. I called Majestic (car happened to be from RI) and the service writer said she saw the history on the car but no where on there did she see that the timing belt was ever done....

I'm at 122k and its not worth the risk, plus I have a leak somewhere so I'm gonna change out all the seals minus the rear main. I figured I would list my parts I have collected so far and my plans and see if you guys think I'm and if I'm missing anything.

30110-PA1-732 O-RING (26.4X3.1) (TEC) 1
91213-PR3-004 OIL SEAL (29X43X8) (ARAI) 2
12030-P13-000 GASKET SET, HEAD COVER 1
15825-P13-005 FILTER ASSY., SPOOL VALVE 1
13405-PT0-004 BELT, BALANCER TIMING (UNITTA) 1
91233-PT0-003 OIL SEAL (27X40X8) (NOK) 1
19200-P13-003 WATER PUMP (YAMADA) 1
56992-PDE-E01 BELT, POWER STEERING PUMP (MITSUBOSHI) 1
91316-PE7-730 O-RING (62.4X3.1) 1
91214-PLE-003 OIL SEAL (80X100X10) (NOK) 1
06923-P0A-306 KIT,OIL SEAL RETA 1
38920-P0F-J01 BELT, COMPRESSOR (BANDO) 1
12210-PZ1-004 SEAL A, VALVE STEM (NOK) 8
12211-PZ1-004 SEAL B, VALVE STEM (NOK) 8
30103-P08-003 HEAD ASSY., ROTOR 1
12251-P5M-004 GASKET, CYLINDER HEAD (NIPPON LEAKLESS) 1
90005-PCB-003 BOLT-WASHER (12X185) 10
18115-P5M-003 GASKET, EX. MANIFOLD (NIPPON LEAKLESS) 1
30102-PT3-A12 CAP ASSY. 1

Skunk 2 cap cam seal
Gates timing belt T226
Kiazenspeed Timing Tensioner
Hondata intake manifold gasket
Saikou Michi S1-OCC Catch Can with sight glass mod

I also have a custom painted valve cover on the way
and plans for new NGK plugs and wire, and a new PCV and grommet.

I have been debating on some Supertech valves on a suggestion from a honda tech friend but I just don't know if I can stretch the budget that far.

while the head is off I'm gonna have it machined ever so slightly and cleaned and painted. I also don't know about having any other work done to it while its off, or if I will see any benefit from a 3 angle valve job .
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Re: About to have some maintenance work done

There is a small ring gasket on the oil pump that you're missing 15114-PT0-003

# 5 in the following diagram from Majestic; Honda Automotive Parts


And you have a Rear Main seal, not a front. 91212-PAA-A01 is a front main seal

you have a 91214-PLE-003, which is a Rear. It's a noticeably large difference in size lol


The Gates timing belt usually comes with a balance shaft belt as well. I recently purchased and installed both on my car as well as all of the seals you have listed and some, although I did not touch the valve seals.
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There is a small ring gasket on the oil pump that you're missing 15114-PT0-003

# 5 in the following diagram from Majestic; Honda Automotive Parts


And you have a Rear Main seal, not a front. 91212-PAA-A01 is a front main seal

you have a 91214-PLE-003, which is a Rear. It's a noticeably large difference in size lol


The Gates timing belt usually comes with a balance shaft belt as well. I recently purchased and installed both on my car as well as all of the seals you have listed and some, although I did not touch the valve seals.

I bought 91214-PLE-003 cause it was on MommysLittleMonster's "The Official Oil Leak Guide" The Official Oil Leak Guide - Honda Prelude Forum : Honda Prelude Forums

check it out, maybe its wrong.

Either way looks like I'm ordering 15114-PT0-003, and thanks for your help.
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could port n polish the intake manifold while the head is going to be off
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I bought 91214-PLE-003 cause it was on MommysLittleMonster's "The Official Oil Leak Guide" The Official Oil Leak Guide - Honda Prelude Forum : Honda Prelude Forums

check it out, maybe its wrong.

Either way looks like I'm ordering 15114-PT0-003, and thanks for your help.


He has the numbers mixed up. My rear main is still sitting here since i've not installed my new clutch yet.


I'll get that post of chris' straightened out...eventually
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could port n polish the intake manifold while the head is going to be off
I could, but would it be a good idea? I have a stock SH other then a K&N filter and the resonator removed.

Only plans are to add a vibrant header, high flow cat, 2.5" kteller pipe, magnaflow 18" resonator and a vibrant exhaust. I might not do that for 6 months to a year.
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im going to do mine when i bring my motor to the machine shop
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you should worry about tuning/engine management if youre going to add some performance parts there
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you should worry about tuning/engine management if youre going to add some performance parts there
I don't plan on doing any engine managment since its an SH and I would like to keep the ATTS, and I don't want to drop a $1000 on an AEM or Greddy.

I would like to swap out the exhaust for something a little more free flowing. My question is, while the head is off should I go for a 3 angle valve job, maybe even a intake porting although I don't think that a good idea considering my plans.

Changing the valves I don't see as a performance mod, more of piece of mind knowing they are new. I was recommended Supertechs by a honda tech over honda oem since they are lighter, stronger and cheaper.
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I don't plan on doing any engine managment since its an SH and I would like to keep the ATTS, and I don't want to drop a $1000 on an AEM or Greddy.

I would like to swap out the exhaust for something a little more free flowing. My question is, while the head is off should I go for a 3 angle valve job, maybe even a intake porting although I don't think that a good idea considering my plans.
you know porting is pretty much waste of money if you use stock ecu afterwards. it can be downgrade and you just lose power since it just mess up your air/fuel rations with stock ecu and you cannot correct them with proper engine management

only IHE upgrades with sh without any tuning (dont know is it wise even to get proper exhaust without tuning, atleast you dont get everything out of what you could with tuning)
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Don't waste your time porting and polishing anything. It wouldn't be worth it for a stockish car. Good luck with your maintenance plan!
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got some more parts in the mail today!
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Got my work under way, I am now into a new radiator, a new thermostat, a new knock sensor and ignition coil. Unexpected repairs are kicking my A$$

also picking up all Amsoil stuff

ATTS-ATFQT-(quart)-(1)-$11.40

5W-30-ASL1G (gallon)-(1)-$39.35

5W-30-ASLQT (quart)-(1)-$10.00

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Re: About to have some maintenance work done

you should get the valve seats and the valves grinded. over time the margin on the valves thins out, and the valve mashes farther into the head as everything wears. i just rebuilt my motor and i ended up replacing all the intake valves cause the margin was too thin on a few of them. if the margin is too thin than you could end up burning a valve. and when you grind the valves you need a new seat for them.
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You can only cut seats so many times before you have to purchase a new head. If it is done wrong the first time, you'd be purchasing a new head immediately when you probably didn't need to in the first place. Your tolerances will be out of spec eventually (from cutting seats and re-angling). Just lap the valves by hand to even them out (if you need it).
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You can only cut seats so many times before you have to purchase a new head. If it is done wrong the first time, you'd be purchasing a new head immediately when you probably didn't need to in the first place. Your tolerances will be out of spec eventually (from cutting seats and re-angling). Just lap the valves by hand to even them out (if you need it).
Right now that is what I'm having done with the head being off, a minor amount of decking and and having the valves reseated, I'm not doing the work, its being done by a professional machinist. This is the first time its been done on the head.
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Good news is that the cylinder walls had no scaring, there was a fair amount of carbon build up on the pistons from the previous owner though.

What I'm debating right now is to pick up some new radiator hoses or leave the 12 year old ones as is. Money is becoming a factor and I'm hoping nothing else comes up that I need to replace.
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Looks like the cap cam seal and front main seal are responsible for my oil spots in the driveway.

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My seal was leaking too! Now I have a leak on the passenger side of my transmission :/
Oh well! But your parts look great together. Lots of work ahead
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