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Head Rebuild?

Hey Guys, my Lude I got a couple months ago is burning oil like no tomorrow. I've done some reading around on here and it sounds like valve stem seals might be the culprit?

Some history on the car, its ~101000 miles, doesn't blow smoke, doesn't leak. I go through about 1 quart of oil a month. It does have some carbon buildup on the exhaust tip but no smoke clouds or anything like that.

So my questions are is this typical for the H22's? How much does just a basic head rebuild run at a shop? and is there anything these H22's need special attention for?
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:25 PM
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Re: Head Rebuild?

I also forgot to ask, anyone know of a good shop in the Utah area that knows Honda engines?
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Re: Head Rebuild?

Yeah that is probably your culprit. i know i had bad rings and was burning alot more oil than that.
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Re: Head Rebuild?

That's good news cause I really really didn't want to touch the bottom end. Figured I'd replace the timing belt while I'm pulling the head anyways and that's more than enough work already.
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Re: Head Rebuild?

I'd jump to that conclusion pretty quick as well, but gotta ask first-how many miles to you drive per month? H22's are notorious for burning some oil in the first place, like maybe 1-1.5 qts per oil change (3000-4000mi). If you're alarmed by how much you're losing, it's probably more than that, but never a bad thing to have clarification.
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Re: Head Rebuild?

Not too many miles. I'd say maybe 2000-3000 a month? I've had it since the beginning of September and have put about 5 quarts in it. I had the oil changed the day I bought it so i know it was full then.
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As for head work- I paid a shop here in Albuquerque to hot tank my head and block, hone the cylinders, disassemble my head (valves, springs, ratainers, seals), perform a 3-angle valve job and cut new valve seats, and reassemble the head with new seals, valves, springs, and retainers for $490. I would assume you could have them do just the head work for less than half that.
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Re: Head Rebuild?

Thanks dude, thats not too bad at all. Now I just gotta wait for summer so I dont freeze my ass off in the garage.
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Not too many miles. I'd say maybe 2000-3000 a month? I've had it since the beginning of September and have put about 5 quarts in it. I had the oil changed the day I bought it so i know it was full then.
Sorry I didn't see this post. That is quite a bit of driving, but then again, that's also a lot of oil to burn. I drive about 30mi a day total and I thought that was a lotta driving.

When you have the head off and at the machine shop, if possible, have them check your piston rings and landings, the cylinders, etc.. I know that'd be hard without being able to drive the car there, but maybe pics of the cylinders or something? Oil will excessively get into the head and out the exhaust if your piston rings are on their way out or if there's something else going on that's allowing too much oil to get up above the pistons.
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That's good news cause I really really didn't want to touch the bottom end. Figured I'd replace the timing belt while I'm pulling the head anyways and that's more than enough work already.
its the piston rings more likely, after my head rebuild the engine burns oir in the same way than before
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Re: Head Rebuild?

Get some Mechanics fast fit and get er done.
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How much should a head rebuild cost? And should it be enough to reset the engine mileage to 0?
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How much should a head rebuild cost?
depends are you getting new cams & valvetrain parts there also AND are you doing the work yourself or do you take your car to some shop...

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And should it be enough to reset the engine mileage to 0?
you need to new piston rings and bottom bearings for that
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Having the shop do it and getting new piston rings and bearings.
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Re: Head Rebuild?

^ changing piston rings is 10-14 hours job. its wise to change clutch also when youre there.
if youre doing head rebuild at the same time.... thats plus ~25 hours

25+14x50$= 1950$ + parts

so lets say that you need 3500-4000$ atleast? work is damn expensive
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Re: Head Rebuild?

I am in the same boat, I am guessing that I need new rings and/or valve seals. Curious as to the cost, and whether to sell it or invest the cash.
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