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What's up guys. SO I'm having a lot of trouble on deciding what to do with my 5th gen due to the fact that it has a salvage title due to body damage, I haven't checked the frame rigorously but I don't think it's bent from what I can tell. I believe the rear quarter panel was where the damage occurred because today I find out it has been bonded when I was getting my fender rolled on the rear driver side you can see pieces of bondo falling and I checked with a magnet and it appears to go from the inside where the door latches onto the body onto the fender and it's bellow the part where the quarter panel folds. Also I believe this why I have to close the door a bit hard because if I just close the door softly it won't close completely and appears to be a little off (the door). Here's some background info on the prelude, it's a 97 Base model with salvage title and 5 speed of course. Bought it for 3,200 about 2 years ago. The x owner had it repainted (I believe he got it from a yard due to a previous accident). Here's what I have done to it since then as far as I can remember; fuel filter, new radiator, thermostat, coolant, bleed the cooling system, new radiator fan, ebay intake, k&N filter carb legal sticker, ceramic brakes all around, new rotors all around with brembo blankes in the front, o2 sensor bank 1, new oil cooler o-ring, cam cap plug, vc gasket, spark plug well seals, vtec silinoid gasket, new battery, new alternator, new cv axle both driver side and passenger side, koni struts, ground control sleeves, greddy exhaust, led lights everywhere, ddm tuning 6k hids, side visors, rear visor, kenwood speakers all around, shift nob, alarm system, carbon fiber vyinal interior, new clutch master cylinder, new clutch slave cylinder. I have done all this not counting oil changes, oil filter of course and have ran pure chevron high octane gas since I first bought it. All that I listed was since I first bought it until most recently through out all the time I have owned it. I love this car but I plan on fully building it later on BUT I feel that it isn't worth investing more money into a salvage car. Really need some help and advice from you guys. What I was thinking was selling it and getting a clean title and stock as possible 5 speed base and working on that. I would take all the parts worth taking of from my current prelude like the exhaust, visors, speakers and little stuff like that. I am planning on fully building a prelude maybe this one or a clean title bone stock one after college. Right now I have 2 years so I can transfer to my university of choice and then 2 more years there. Then once I land a job and if everything goes well a full out build so I can use this car as my weekend warrior and my track car occasionally. If you guys would like some pics of the damage I can see from the exterior I will take some for you guys later today. Appreciate it guys
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Re: Salvage or non-salvage

Do what you want. If you feel a fresh start is worth it then do it.


Depending on the length of the damage, i'd just keep it and have the quarter replaced eventually. But with the door issue - have you ever adjusted the latch and checked the hinges?


My car was hit a few times, damage is visible but I have no intentions of getting it fixed - would be deemed totaled if the insurance company and previous owner were ontop of things in their inspections.... and then the accident I most recently had really ****ed up my front.... But **** it, i've been through too much with this car to give up on it. Not sure if you feel the same about yours or not...
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If it drives straight and looks alright to you, what's the difference if it's a salvage title or not? It's not like you can sell it again and get much more for it anyway, regardless of all you've put into it. And with all you've already put into it, why start over when you're already half way there?
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Interesting never heard of this. I'm located in CA so we are probably the one of the strictest states when it comes to automobiles.

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It actually drives to the right side a bit because of caster I believe but nothing to bad. Yeah that's why I'm really thinking about it and the reason I'm thinking about selling it is because some ppl stay far away from salvaged titled cars and there value goes down. Other reason why I'm thinking about it is because more maintenance and problems will come up like need a new clutch soon and what not.

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Do what you want. If you feel a fresh start is worth it then do it.


Depending on the length of the damage, i'd just keep it and have the quarter replaced eventually. But with the door issue - have you ever adjusted the latch and checked the hinges?


My car was hit a few times, damage is visible but I have no intentions of getting it fixed - would be deemed totaled if the insurance company and previous owner were ontop of things in their inspections.... and then the accident I most recently had really ****ed up my front.... But **** it, i've been through too much with this car to give up on it. Not sure if you feel the same about yours or not...
Of course I will do what I want but some advice from fellow members never hurts and someone might have been in the same spot as me and also some one might mention something that can help me further decide what I really wanna do.

That's a great idea just having the whole quarter panel replaced but that would be much further down the road when I'm done with school. Yes I actually did try and adjust it but it didn't really help. I looked where the hinges mount from the door to the body and it looks fine as far as I can tell.

Damn what a bummer but I definitely feel you I have gotten so much compliments on my car and so much money and done most of all the labor. And still putting in more work like a new clutch and flywheel I will be putting in soon.
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When my friend starting rolling my fender he realized that it had bondo so he did his best to roll it a bit but not crack a chunk off :/





Can you see how the door doesn't align to the door jam?


Doesn't look to bad? and on the next picture can you see right below the side skirt in the little crack it's bent is that body damage or is that part of the frame?






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Pictures aren't working and I would listen to Lindso, that was some sound advice.
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I can see them as we speak let me check and I agree
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The car was hit right on that pillar the latch is mounted on. You can see all the deformed metal towards the bottom, just where that crack in the sideskirt is.


However, the door sagging is due to the hinges - i've got the same issue on my accord. One of the washers broke off and the only way to fix it is to install a new one.


The bondo on the quarters could possibly be from a bad attempt at fixing the quarter rust. - I'd almost suggest having a shop take a look at it and see if they can just cut the lip off and seal it.... but no idea how much money that would involve vs replacing the quarter.
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Just keep it and keep making it yours. no reason in starting all over again just because of what a piece of paper says. most things can be fixed and as far as that stuff it's not a big deal really.
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What wing said, get an estimate from a reputable shop, and decide what you can do yourself. If you need a pull(s) now is the time to get a rolling chassis, transfer all you can, part the rest. Some cars are beyond saving.

All this time i never had an idea yours was salvage. So that counts for something.
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To add about the door - when the door is open, can you lift up on it and feel "play" in the hinges? I would ask if you can see if the hinge has moved due to a bare spot of paint being visible, but doubt it due to the car being repainted.


Also, right where your sticker is in the door jam, is that piece of the pillar pushed outward and possibly making contact with the door as it closes?


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The car was hit right on that pillar the latch is mounted on. You can see all the deformed metal towards the bottom, just where that crack in the sideskirt is.


However, the door sagging is due to the hinges - i've got the same issue on my accord. One of the washers broke off and the only way to fix it is to install a new one.


The bondo on the quarters could possibly be from a bad attempt at fixing the quarter rust. - I'd almost suggest having a shop take a look at it and see if they can just cut the lip off and seal it.... but no idea how much money that would involve vs replacing the quarter.
Alright good suggestions. I'll check out the hinges and see if they sagged or what.
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Yeah that's true man. Thanks for the suggestion

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What wing said, get an estimate from a reputable shop, and decide what you can do yourself. If you need a pull(s) now is the time to get a rolling chassis, transfer all you can, part the rest. Some cars are beyond saving.

All this time i never had an idea yours was salvage. So that counts for something.
Yeah I thought about that but that would be way later when I can afford buying a good clean title if worse comes to worse just transfer all the goodies and part out everything. Thanks man yeah looks cleaner than some clean titled cars including ludes
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To add about the door - when the door is open, can you lift up on it and feel "play" in the hinges? I would ask if you can see if the hinge has moved due to a bare spot of paint being visible, but doubt it due to the car being repainted.



Also, right where your sticker is in the door jam, is that piece of the pillar pushed outward and possibly making contact with the door as it closes?


Overall, it's fixable
Never thought of that it's possible but wouldn't there be paint to paint contact and it would be scraped or something? Worth checking out for sure though. Yeah I think so too thanks guys
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you could out a fine layer of something in the area below the latch and see if it hits. maybe like clay or something. not sure.
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^^ I wondered that too. Is that the car he's thinking of scrapping?
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Or do like Ownski said and get a clean one.
If!!! you go to sell it someday and the buyer asks for the car fax you can say 'carfox? what's that?' Then show 'em the paper trail... bam! done.
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you could out a fine layer of something in the area below the latch and see if it hits. maybe like clay or something. not sure.
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wait is this the lude in the sig?
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^^ I wondered that too. Is that the car he's thinking of scrapping?
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Just replace the quarter and ignore that piece of paper.
I'll talk to a body shop so they can check it out and give me an estimate even though I wouldn't fix it anytime soon.
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Or do like Ownski said and get a clean one.
If!!! you go to sell it someday and the buyer asks for the car fax you can say 'carfox? what's that?' Then show 'em the paper trail... bam! done.
hahaha that's a good one or I can just speak in Spanish and pretend I have never heard of that.
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Re: Salvage or non-salvage

practically everything on my car was replaced from the firewall forward following a nasty accident, then I got in two more front end collisions (none of the 3 were my fault). I then decided to do a full build. Dumping money into a car is never smart, unless it's a shelby, a rare mopar or a 60's GTO, you'll never get the money back lol.
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Re: Salvage or non-salvage

I would not worry about the salvage title if you love the car and plan on keeping it. Bought mine in 97 and was hit in Feb 2012. Bought it back as salvage from the insurance co and had it fixed (check my album). Take it to a good body shop to see if any other bad damage that may be hidden. If none, replace the quarter panel and enjoy the car. Good luck!
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Ace, word of advice; if you go through the paces of repairing the car to perfect condition, start an brown envelope and put all your receipts in there. When you finish your last repair, go to the dmv and get a state inspection to clear your title. Voila! No record of salvage no mo'!
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practically everything on my car was replaced from the firewall forward following a nasty accident, then I got in two more front end collisions (none of the 3 were my fault). I then decided to do a full build. Dumping money into a car is never smart, unless it's a shelby, a rare mopar or a 60's GTO, you'll never get the money back lol.
do what you want man.
Dam og ddn't know you went through all that on your lude. Yeah it never is smartto dumpmoney on our cars because we will NEVER get it all back but if we don't switch up cars every year like some ppl and we plan on keeping it for a long time it's worth it :) lol

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I would not worry about the salvage title if you love the car and plan on keeping it. Bought mine in 97 and was hit in Feb 2012. Bought it back as salvage from the insurance co and had it fixed (check my album). Take it to a good body shop to see if any other bad damage that may be hidden. If none, replace the quarter panel and enjoy the car. Good luck!
I saw your album pics that's crazy car was hit bad in the rear. Great advice and from the pics I saw of your car and to how it looks now I believe I could do it to mine as well.

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Ace, word of advice; if you go through the paces of repairing the car to perfect condition, start an brown envelope and put all your receipts in there. When you finish your last repair, go to the dmv and get a state inspection to clear your title. Voila! No record of salvage no mo'!
Yeah great idea! I keep a receipt of everything or try to! even little things. I'm going to look into the details on how to get the title changed
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practically everything on my car was replaced from the firewall forward following a nasty accident, then I got in two more front end collisions (none of the 3 were my fault). I then decided to do a full build. Dumping money into a car is never smart, unless it's a shelby, a rare mopar or a 60's GTO, you'll never get the money back lol.
do what you want man.
Dam og ddn't know you went through all that on your lude. Yeah it never is smartto dumpmoney on our cars because we will NEVER get it all back but if we don't switch up cars every year like some ppl and we plan on keeping it for a long time it's worth it :) lol

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I would not worry about the salvage title if you love the car and plan on keeping it. Bought mine in 97 and was hit in Feb 2012. Bought it back as salvage from the insurance co and had it fixed (check my album). Take it to a good body shop to see if any other bad damage that may be hidden. If none, replace the quarter panel and enjoy the car. Good luck!
I saw your album pics that's crazy car was hit bad in the rear. Great advice and from the pics I saw of your car and to how it looks now I believe I could do it to mine as well.

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Ace, word of advice; if you go through the paces of repairing the car to perfect condition, start an brown envelope and put all your receipts in there. When you finish your last repair, go to the dmv and get a state inspection to clear your title. Voila! No record of salvage no mo'!
Yeah great idea! I keep a receipt of everything or try to! even little things. I'm going to look into the details on how to get the title changed
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