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Old 12-18-2012, 10:26 PM
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is my wheel going to fall off?

i was having a problem of when i turned i would get a clicking noise from the passenger side, but not when i was going straight.

so after some research, i decided it was the cv axle. ok, so while i was replacing it (looked like boot had been replaced by last owner, was all rusty) i also did tie rod ends and lower ball joints. wow what a difference it made in how tight my car felt!

the cv axle was bad, because one of the noises it was making is gone. but it still clicks when i turn. while i had the steering knuckle off i had a mechanic tell me they were bad just by looking at them, even though they spun freely. (saw some rust dust coming from it or something)

now i am going to change my oil and i decided to check my wheel bearings, and indeed they are bad (wheel "clicks" in all directions) the passenger side is the one im worried about.

could driving on ruined wheel bearings make my wheel fall off? im not really 100% on how that all works, i know mine are press fit, can't just undo 4 bolts like many other cars. the steering knuckle is solid, no play, new tie rod ends lower ball joints, and the rubber bushings and stuff look ok, a little cracked but all there. if a 30 dollar bearing that i can have a shop press in for 20 bucks is a good deal for something that could save my life. but if at all possible i dont want to spend the cash.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:34 PM
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Re: is my wheel going to fall off?

In theory it could fall off. i had a quad that had a wheel bearing wear out and the wheel fell off as i was riding.
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Re: is my wheel going to fall off?

Not sure honestly but does the wheel bearing make a noise while driving? The axle holds it in somewhat the bearing is just around it I beleive. Don't quote me. I say replace it asap Also was the lower ball join easy or a pain in the azz? PM since I might do these soon plz. Also CV axles make noise usually when going from a complete stop. Mine did that and just replaced both of them. The driver side one fell apart when pulling them out
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:57 PM
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Re: is my wheel going to fall off?

How do you know it was the passenger side cv only?
2 mechanics + my friend mechanic said to change both at the same time?

if it is a bad wheel bearing it would make a sound while you drive straight also (fairly certain on that?)

Check the cv boot on the driver side my suggestion
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Re: is my wheel going to fall off?

If its anything like my 3rd Gen it probably won't make your wheel fall off until it tears your brake housing off... My wheel bearing had eaten itself (fell apart when I pulled the hub apart) but it had also eaten the inner part of the hub away which I had to replace.

If you can get a new bearing put in for $50 it sounds cheap IMO, mine was $100 delivered and I had to put it in myself, then pull the whole thing apart again and buy a second hand hub assembly to replace the inner hub that was damaged.

I didn't bother pressing out the new bearing again, I still have it!
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Re: is my wheel going to fall off?

replace both. if one went out the other is close behind most likely.
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Re: is my wheel going to fall off?

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How do you know it was the passenger side cv only?
2 mechanics + my friend mechanic said to change both at the same time?

if it is a bad wheel bearing it would make a sound while you drive straight also (fairly certain on that?)

Check the cv boot on the driver side my suggestion
^^agree with this a bad wheel bearing doesn't click at least mine didn't ...had my driver side front replaced...also when you take turns with a wheel bearing bad the noise dissapears...

I heard cv's make clicking noise in turns when bad...double check work?
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I heard cv's make clicking noise in turns when bad...double check work?
i went through everything today, i know for sure that the bearing is bad (wheel click when i wobble it any direction, not just up and down (ball joint) or side to side (tie rod end))
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Re: is my wheel going to fall off?

Tie rods coming apart is what will make the tire cave in. Wheel bearing will just make a lot of noise, but most likely will not fall off.
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Tie rods coming apart is what will make the tire cave in. Wheel bearing will just make a lot of noise, but most likely will not fall off.
well the tie rod ends are new, and were the highest quality ones oreillys had (moog)

the reason for making this thread was just to kind of get an idea of what priority i should set changing them at. im going to wait till either it starts to warm up, or if i have lots of money saved up and can afford to pay a shop to press them in after i get the knuckle off.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:51 AM
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well the tie rod ends are new, and were the highest quality ones oreillys had (moog)

the reason for making this thread was just to kind of get an idea of what priority i should set changing them at. im going to wait till either it starts to warm up, or if i have lots of money saved up and can afford to pay a shop to press them in after i get the knuckle off.
is there a DIY?
I also have bad front wheel bearings.
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is there a DIY?
I also have bad front wheel bearings.
you have to get the knuckle all the way off the car, which depends on the state of your ball joints and tie rod ends (not necessarily if they are bad, just how badly the threads are gummed up, which makes a difference in removing the castle nut) if you are taking your time, the knuckle can be off in about 5-6 hours. just be sure not to stress the brake line (dont hang the caliper on it, get a coat hanger and attach it to the frame)

you will need to take it to a shop to have it pressed in, same with the ball joints. best to find a good shop before you even order parts. there is a shop near me that presses them for free as long as you buy them from their shop (if they break it, they can get free replacement ones). while you have the knuckle off, you should do lower ball joints, wheel bearings, and outer tie rod ends. i didn't do the wheel bearings and now i have to do the whole thing again, but this time it should only take like 2 hours to disassemble everything because i know what im doing.
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you have to get the knuckle all the way off the car, which depends on the state of your ball joints and tie rod ends (not necessarily if they are bad, just how badly the threads are gummed up, which makes a difference in removing the castle nut) if you are taking your time, the knuckle can be off in about 5-6 hours. just be sure not to stress the brake line (dont hang the caliper on it, get a coat hanger and attach it to the frame)

you will need to take it to a shop to have it pressed in, same with the ball joints. best to find a good shop before you even order parts. there is a shop near me that presses them for free as long as you buy them from their shop (if they break it, they can get free replacement ones). while you have the knuckle off, you should do lower ball joints, wheel bearings, and outer tie rod ends. i didn't do the wheel bearings and now i have to do the whole thing again, but this time it should only take like 2 hours to disassemble everything because i know what im doing.
Last week when I had my front end apart for 4 days I replaced both lower/upper balljoints/axles and I did inner/outer tie rods+boots about a month ago.
After I put everything back together is when I noticed the wheel bearings were bad.
I used a hammer/autozone press to take the bj's out and put them back in..
Was wondering if there was a tool to press out the wheel bearing instead of taking it to the shop.
I hate hate hate hate taking my car to any type of shop, they take all my $$!
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Last week when I had my front end apart for 4 days I replaced both lower/upper balljoints/axles and I did inner/outer tie rods+boots about a month ago.
After I put everything back together is when I noticed the wheel bearings were bad.
I used a hammer/autozone press to take the bj's out and put them back in..
Was wondering if there was a tool to press out the wheel bearing instead of taking it to the shop.
I hate hate hate hate taking my car to any type of shop, they take all my $$!
check this thread Write-Up: DIY Front Wheel Bearing Replacement - Honda-Tech

just read through it, and i actually think i could do it myself
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Re: is my wheel going to fall off?

CV shaft snap at the bolt, :) in my yard fiou, because of a bad bearing on my last integra
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