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Old 11-30-2012, 01:48 AM
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ATTS mechanical failure

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I am the proud owner of a rather beat up 98 type-sh. I bought it used in 2007 from a guy who bought it with transmission and suspension issues. That guy fixed it up and frequently took it to the drag strip. Suffice to say, my car has been through a lot, and for the past five years, I've just been trying to keep it running.

About a month ago, I took a pot-hole square on the left front tire (followed shortly by the rear as well) while traveling about 60mph. Both rear shocks had to be replaced. Oddly enough, the front left shock, which took the majority of the impact, survived. However, it now seems that my car actually bottomed-out when this happened. A couple days after the incident, I started to hear a grinding/creaking noise from the left-front area. Today, my mechanic broke the awful news to me that the noise is coming from my ATTS unit, and that it's likely to be some bad bearings. Also of note is the fact that the unit itself is now leaking fluid. My car (like all H22A4's) leaks/burns oil, but it never used to leak transmission fluid.

My request for the tech gurus here is to help me evaluate my options.
1) Pay up now. I found a used ATTS unit on Google for $150, and my mechanic should be able to install it for me.
2) Pay up later/never. I already plan to pass the prelude on in about six months. Knowing this, my mechanic has already advised me to just drive it until it dies.

Seeing as I haven't been able to make ends meet the past two months, I'm really leaning toward option two. The last thing I need right now is to spend $500 on my car again. I am concerned about safety though. What would happen if the unit were to seize up while on the highway? I'll gladly spend $500 to save my life. If the unit did seize up on the highway (and I didn't get killed in the process), what are the chances that other components could be damaged as well? The only thing worse than spending $500 on my car right now would be to spend $2000 next month for a full transmission swap. Like I said, I plan to let her go in about six months, but I absolutely positively need a car until that time. Getting a new car before next summer is not a financial option for me.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Thanks everyone, and sorry for the novel of a first post.
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Re: ATTS mechanical failure

have fun trying to sell a car with a trashed ATTS or trying to sleep knowing you just ****ed someone
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Re: ATTS mechanical failure

See, this is why I have always avoided enthusiast forums. Ricers and assholes. I post a legitimate question looking for some support from the community, and all I get is flak. There's a fair price for a prelude that needs a new atts box. I would price it accordingly. You'd have to be pretty dense to not notice all the grinding it makes on the test drive. I will keep this forum in mind the next time I need some moral guidance though.

Does anyone have anything useful to contribute?
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Re: ATTS mechanical failure

have you discussed fixing the problem with your mechanic? i see you looked at a r&r for the busted unit. .
ive heard of removing and replacing with a half shaft kit but i think that's about as much as you would be spending for atts r&r. me personally, i don't know whether atts will sieze or not. mine is unhooked and the car rolls just fine. but it don't make noises. like yours.

i'd say see if repairing your unit is feaseable $ wise or check into the half shaft.
one more thing: not trying to post another lame-o comment, just words to live by... when you do purchase another automobile it's probably best to not buy a hot rod unless you have money to keep it going. i did that in my 20's and ended up either walking, riding a bike or bumming a ride while my cool car collected bird crap.
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Re: ATTS mechanical failure

If I could do it all again, I probably would not have purchased an SH for this exact reason. Cool feature, but in the end, it's just another thing to go wrong. After about a year of owning my car, the ATTS light came on. Had it diagnosed and it ended up being the control unit (Go figure, the most expensive part). If it made grinding noises then I'd say it should come out. $500 now may save you 2 or 3 grand down the road for collateral damage if it takes a crap. And it may save you from being hurt or killed if the bitch happens to lock up at an inopportune time.

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Re: ATTS mechanical failure

Thanks guys, I really appreciate the insight. I've decided to go ahead with the repair, with the help of my mechanic friend, rather than paying out the wazoo for tuffy. FWIW, when I bought the car, I was on a much different career path, one that included a lot more money. My plan at the time was to bring it back to life the way I wanted it, and get into some auto-x. Alas, even the best laid plans...

I can't believe how much I love these little cars. This is actually my second. My first was a 97 slushbox, RIP. This time next year, I'll finally have a real job again, and plan to get a new WRX. I could never sell my Prelude though. I'm planning on giving it to my brother in law, so she can live out her years in peace, 17 y/o ricer free.
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Re: ATTS mechanical failure

one day it dawned on me what form over fashion means. i replaced my leather jacket with fleece lined flannel. then later i bought another leather jacket for playtime.

my daily driver is a pickup truck. my life sized hot wheel car is a prelude type sh.
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Re: ATTS mechanical failure

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he has an atts $100!!!
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That's cool that you're donating it for a worthy cause and who wouldn't love getting a free Prelude! Giving it to your brother in law also gives you tons of points with your in laws, LOL
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Re: ATTS mechanical failure

It's selfish really. By giving it to him, I still get to enjoy it vicariously through my brother in law.

I've decided to go ahead with the repairs. My friend used to work as an auto mechanic and is going to help me out for $100/day. Can't beat that! Now I'm considering putting a new converter on as well, since we have to remove the downpipe anyway. Does anyone know offhand how long the converter needs to be for the SH? I could measure it myself except that it's raining outside an I don't have a jack.
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