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Random not plugged in plugs in engine bay?.

Hey guys i have some plug type things that i have found in my engine bay not plugged into anything And i don't know anything about what purpose they might have. Wondering if you guys know what any of them are for.

First up here is these two guys laying around.

all i know is one looks like it definitely should be somewhere idk about the big box looking relay thing. But they are just kinda hanging out right behind the thermostat, and they it all confuses the hell outta me that they would be there and have no purpose..

Then

Random not plugged in plug right behind the battery under where the intake would be..

Now this whatever it is confuses me the most. No idea where to start with it. Anyone have any ideas?



^^^this top one is it just laying on the ect under the dis.

^^^And this is whatever it is just hanging out next to the ect under the dis.
When i follow it back it just jumps into one of the factory wiring bundles. Its only like 6 or so inches long to so where ever it goes it cant be far from the dis.

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Re: Random not plugged in plugs in engine bay?.

did you do an engine swap and used the same harness? am specifically talking about the H22A4 to an H22A. the H22A does not use as much sensors as the H22A4.
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Re: Random not plugged in plugs in engine bay?.

Fixed the pics for ya




First pic:

Top connector: has a terminal plug, doesn't get plugged into anything.
Bottom connector... (its teh same exact connector as the second picture, is it not?!): I'm 99% positive that plug is for the butterfly valve in the stock air intake resonator box, so if you have an aftermarket intake, doesn't need to get plugged into anything.


Second pic: See First pic.


Third, fourth, fifth, and sixth pics: Aren't those all the same EXACT connector? Just different angles?
I know its not a connector for an ECT, I forget exactly which sensor it is, but I know it does get plugged into the head either right in front or behind the green ECT connector, only like 2 inches away.
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Re: Random not plugged in plugs in engine bay?.

I am interested in finding out if its the stock engine but idk where the vin on the block is?? But there is a stamp on the engine right in front that says its a h22a4. Don't know if its the original, but it is a a4 as far as i know.

Thanks for fixing the pics!
And on the top 2 pictures it is the same "type" of connector but it is a different one. So idk..

Yea the last 4 pictures are the same one. I was just trying to maker sure you could see exactly what it looked like and where it its located.

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Re: Random not plugged in plugs in engine bay?.

did you study the wiring diagrams contained in the repair manual you downloaded from the resource guide here at pz???

you have downloaded a manual, right?
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Re: Random not plugged in plugs in engine bay?.

First pick: large connector is a jumper for the injector wires. I forget the exact term used for it, but that is how it's supposed to be. The smaller connector, there are 3 in the engine bay that look like that, i would need to know where it runs in order to tell you where it goes.


Second pic; intake resonator butterfly valve - aftermarket intake - leave it alone

3, 4, 5, 6; that's supposed to go on your head, to the right of the greenish connector. seems you're missing the other end... I don't feel like pulling up the diagram to get an exact name, you need to download it anyway so happy hunting!
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Fixed the pics for ya




First pic:

Top connector: has a terminal plug, doesn't get plugged into anything.
Bottom connector... (its teh same exact connector as the second picture, is it not?!): I'm 99% positive that plug is for the butterfly valve in the stock air intake resonator box, so if you have an aftermarket intake, doesn't need to get plugged into anything.


Second pic: See First pic.


Third, fourth, fifth, and sixth pics: Aren't those all the same EXACT connector? Just different angles?
I know its not a connector for an ECT, I forget exactly which sensor it is, but I know it does get plugged into the head either right in front or behind the green ECT connector, only like 2 inches away.
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First pick: large connector is a jumper for the injector wires. I forget the exact term used for it, but that is how it's supposed to be. The smaller connector, there are 3 in the engine bay that look like that, i would need to know where it runs in order to tell you where it goes.


Second pic; intake resonator butterfly valve - aftermarket intake - leave it alone

3, 4, 5, 6; that's supposed to go on your head, to the right of the greenish connector. seems you're missing the other end... I don't feel like pulling up the diagram to get an exact name, you need to download it anyway so happy hunting!




Now whereeeeeeee did I just hear the same thing!??!.........
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Re: Random not plugged in plugs in engine bay?.

Man whatever it is in the spot on the head next to the ect your talking about is destroyed.. and if I'm not mistaken this is where that #3,4,5,6 picture connector goes??


I went to orileys and bought what i think might be it but since its not recognizable at all I'm just making sure. this is it Right?


And if this is it i tried to plug it into that connector and it wont go in. The top piece wont go in at all. It like gets jammed right in the front. if this is it can i sand it down a little?



Idk why my pictures are urls lol. Sorry about that
Thanks guys. I want my temp gauge back!

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Now whereeeeeeee did I just hear the same thing!??!.........
Verbatim!
We can't always rely on the words of a former 4th gen owner now traitor and current subaru owner.


Anyway, you were only correct on the dead end plug, but did not describe WHAT it was.







edit* also, in the 2nd photo, the connector is not long enough to reach where the dead end plug is - clearly shown it is not the same as shown in photo 1. The connector in the first photo, next to the dead end plug goes on the intake manifold somewhere.


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Re: Random not plugged in plugs in engine bay?.

Well if the ''dead end plug'' isn't what i just bought then i have no idea what it is.. But anyway the sensor i just bought in the pictures above is called a engine coolant temperature gauge sensor.

And I'm not trying to plug one of those connectors into this sensor lol, I'm trying to plug #3 4 5 6 connector into the dead end sensor. But #1 and 2 pictures are 2 separate sensors but the same type.
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Well if the ''dead end plug'' isn't what i just bought then i have no idea what it is.. But anyway the sensor i just bought in the pictures above is called a engine coolant temperature gauge sensor.

And I'm not trying to plug one of those connectors into this sensor lol, I'm trying to plug #3 4 5 6 connector into the dead end sensor. But #1 and 2 pictures are 2 separate sensors but the same type.


Picture 1; the large plug is a dead end connector for the injectors. It is just that - a dead end with jumpers inside. There is no other end for it.


the smaller plug in picture 1 is indeed different from the one in picture 2 - which is why I stated that in my last response. Picture 2 is for the butterfly valve from the stock intake system. If you do not have a stock intake, do not worry about this plug since it is useless with an aftermarket intake. The small plug in picture 1 is one of 3 around the intake manifold, which is why more photos were requested.

That smaller plug in picture 1 - I would like more photos of that and your intake manifold. How much room do you have to move it (how long is the wire?)


The plug in pictures 3 and on is indeed part of the thermostat system. The sensor part number is 37750-PH2-014

That is the sensor that is broken off in this photo;

http://i.imgur.com/VmDye.jpg?1

number 14 in this diagram; http://www.hondapartsnow.com/diagram...sor-455950.png



So yes, this looks to be the correct sensor; http://i.imgur.com/A4s4E.jpg?1

However due to your issue with the plug not fitting over it, I recommend using the part number I listed above and purchasing it from Honda. It's never good to force or modify sensors. It should cost around $36


...good luck removing the old one.....
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We can't always rely on the words of a former 4th gen owner now traitor and current subaru owner.


Anyway, you were only correct on the dead end plug, but did not describe WHAT it was.







edit* also, in the 2nd photo, the connector is not long enough to reach where the dead end plug is - clearly shown it is not the same as shown in photo 1. The connector in the first photo, next to the dead end plug goes on the intake manifold somewhere.


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Wiring is what you do, but you didn't know the name of the ECT sensor?



Sounds like you got the wrong ECT sensor from o'rileys. I've never had any luck getting the correct ECT/coolant sensors from stores like that, only Honda.
Also, are you sure the male end of the sensor isn't stuck in the female connector? That would prevent you from plugging them together.
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Re: Random not plugged in plugs in engine bay?.

Alright, I'll just take it back today and go to a Honda dealer next to me when i get off for the part.

And yes lol I'm sure the male end isn't inside the connector. It just seems to be off spec
I'll keep you guys posted. Thanks for all the help so far
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Or when you return it, see if they have a diff ECT sensor for an H22, that might have a smaller diameter male end.
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Wiring is what you do, but you didn't know the name of the ECT sensor?

I didn't see you posting a reasonable response
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Re: Random not plugged in plugs in engine bay?.

Alright lol things went from bad to worst for me.. first is that you were right twokexlv6coupe. Me having never seen what that connector was supposed to look like in the first place, thought that it looked right but really the end of the connector was broke off inside of where it plugs into. oh well. But in the end i went to the dealer and spent 50 bucks!! on the new, non refundable part from Honda and it plugged in so i was like yayy!! Its right so i pulled it out and was gonna get ready to dig into getting the old part out and this happened

After a day of playing with that i finally got it off thank god.

Well i started to get to work getting the old sensor out with some stripped head extractor tool this shop had and then the head of this piece of crap broke off!!!

Then i used a internal extractor type tool on the inside of it but someone put a lot of lock-tight or something on this thing because the extractor tool was just eating the brass away with every turn. Not loosening at all. So now the old sensor is just chilling where its at. HEADLESS!!

Well what do you guys think i should do now? Tips or tricks? I was thinking that i may have to drill it out and use a timesert? but i really don't want to do that and i don't think i would have enough room to do it anyway. Thanks guys

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Re: Random not plugged in plugs in engine bay?.

Yeeaaaaaa......... that's not gonna be easy at all
I don't think you have a choice other than drilling it out, as much of a PITA as that's gonna be.
It's prolly the corrosion between the aluminum head and brass sensor, along with the heat cycles of the engine, and the chemicals in the coolant that caused the corrosion.


I'd expect drilling that out to take an entire weekend. Use PLENTYYYY of WD-40, torch/heat, bolt extractors....
Or maybe if you drill it big enough, the remaining part of the sensor will collapse on itself leaving the threads on the head untouched.
If you do destroy the threads in the head, you'll need to retap them.
Also once you have an initial hole thru the sensor, the coolant will start leaking out, so I'd recommend draining the coolant beforehand. And get new coolant afterwards.
Not gonna be a fun job at all.


Maybe someone else has an easier idea?
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Re: Random not plugged in plugs in engine bay?.

Do you have enough room to reach a pair of pliers in there and try and back it out?
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Re: Random not plugged in plugs in engine bay?.

Yea i tried that. I don't think i have any option other than draining coolant removing cap and rotar and drilling it out. Then putting a timesert in the hole
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