Honda Prelude Forum
 
Go Back   Honda Prelude Forum > Tech-Talk > 5th Gen Honda Prelude

Thread Title
rear balance shaft timing

 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 11-25-2012, 04:13 PM
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 357
iTrader: (1)
BasicConcepts has a spectacular aura aboutBasicConcepts has a spectacular aura about
rear balance shaft timing

OK I'm trying to time the balance shafts, the rear shaft will stop in 4 different locations with the 6x100mm bolt.

Obviously there can only be one spot so where exactly does the shaft have to point to?
__________________

93 Prelude Si, 435K miles, H22A4 swap, lowered 1.5"

Quote:
Originally Posted by westernprelude View Post
Back seats create babies, babies take money. No backseat, no baby, more money. LOL
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 11-25-2012, 05:28 PM
wing8806's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,053
iTrader: (0)
wing8806 has a reputation beyond reputewing8806 has a reputation beyond reputewing8806 has a reputation beyond reputewing8806 has a reputation beyond reputewing8806 has a reputation beyond reputewing8806 has a reputation beyond reputewing8806 has a reputation beyond reputewing8806 has a reputation beyond reputewing8806 has a reputation beyond reputewing8806 has a reputation beyond reputewing8806 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: rear balance shaft timing

There should be a line on the block and a line on the gear
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 11-25-2012, 05:44 PM
Vipers4Life's Avatar
Internet Badass

 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,492
iTrader: (1)
Vipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond repute
Re: rear balance shaft timing

Screw balance shafts, i'd leave the belt off.
__________________

http://www.preludezone.com/members-r...e-01-base.html
Check out my ride here!^^
Quote:
Originally Posted by twokexlv6coupe View Post
if it's knocking, don't answer it. it's prolly nothing but bad news bears.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brash22 View Post
As much as I'd love to see this done, I offer you the same comment I offer everybody else: There's no point in being the first to do something if you're second across the finish line.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 11-25-2012, 05:48 PM
twokexlv6coupe's Avatar
little green ghouls, buddy!!
Photobucket
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: kitten mittens
Posts: 17,844
iTrader: (9)
twokexlv6coupe has a reputation beyond reputetwokexlv6coupe has a reputation beyond reputetwokexlv6coupe has a reputation beyond reputetwokexlv6coupe has a reputation beyond reputetwokexlv6coupe has a reputation beyond reputetwokexlv6coupe has a reputation beyond reputetwokexlv6coupe has a reputation beyond reputetwokexlv6coupe has a reputation beyond reputetwokexlv6coupe has a reputation beyond reputetwokexlv6coupe has a reputation beyond reputetwokexlv6coupe has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to twokexlv6coupe
Re: rear balance shaft timing

This is a common question and hard to explain with words, so I went and took some pics and gonna put this in the FAQ.


This is the rear balancer shaft. The hole that you see is where the bolt/screwdriver that you use to line the BS up slides thru.
As you can see, there are four lobes around the shaft (one isn't pictured cuz its on the opposite side of the pictured skinny one), two smaller/thinner lobes and two bigger/thicker lobes. These lobes are most likely for balancing purposes, but they also make you think there are 4 different locations where the bolt/screwdriver bottom out. To be correctly lined up, the lobe with the hole in it needs to be on the bottom, 6 o'clock position, to slide the bolt thru.




Here's a BIGASS Kobalt phillips-head, with a shank diameter of 1/4" that just BARELY fits into the hole in the BS.




You can see the screwdriver going thru the hole when the lobe is at the bottom, 6 o'clock position.





And here's a pic of the screwdriver tip bottoming out on the opposite side of the journal, without the balancer shaft in. As you can see the total length from the tip of the screwdriver to the back face of the block is roughly 3 3/8". So if you're using a bolt/screwdriver shank SHORTER than this, the handle/bolt head is gonna hit the back of the block, not giving you a positive reading.




Hope this helps
__________________

1995 Honda Prelude SE Turbo; 250whp, 275wtq @ 10psi Soldddd!!!

2000 Acura TL; DD
2005 Stage2.5+ Subaru WRB STi : RzKar!
Ivey Tuned - Advan - Cobb - Rallispec - CP - Perrin - ACT - KillerB - Carillo - TurboXS - Defi - Innovate - Walbro - DeatschWerks - Feal - H&R - Alpine - Infiniti - Curt

2001 Kawasaki STX1100 D.I. - Sold!
2007 Sea-Doo RXT 215; ET 127 +3 S/C impeller, DIY 3" intake, DIY resonator delete/free flow exhaust, DIY oil catch can, Rule 500gph bilge pump


Quote:
Originally Posted by Brash View Post
But you need that scoop on the hood. Is it true that they're big enough to fit your lunch box and all your camera gear in it?
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 11-25-2012, 07:26 PM
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 357
iTrader: (1)
BasicConcepts has a spectacular aura aboutBasicConcepts has a spectacular aura about
Re: rear balance shaft timing

i just left the belt off. after reading thread after thread about the engine running smooth with it off, i decided f**k it.

thanks for the pics tho they would have helped a lot.
__________________

93 Prelude Si, 435K miles, H22A4 swap, lowered 1.5"

Quote:
Originally Posted by westernprelude View Post
Back seats create babies, babies take money. No backseat, no baby, more money. LOL
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 11-25-2012, 10:34 PM
Lindso's Avatar
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Being sodomized by my Prelude
Posts: 2,871
iTrader: (9)
Lindso has a reputation beyond reputeLindso has a reputation beyond reputeLindso has a reputation beyond reputeLindso has a reputation beyond reputeLindso has a reputation beyond reputeLindso has a reputation beyond reputeLindso has a reputation beyond reputeLindso has a reputation beyond reputeLindso has a reputation beyond reputeLindso has a reputation beyond reputeLindso has a reputation beyond repute
Re: rear balance shaft timing

Is it okay to just leave that belt off in the long run with the balance shafts still installed?
__________________



Quote:
Originally Posted by emathew View Post
Bykfixr doesn't like me for my suspension questions
Quote:
Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
I don't like idiots.


Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 11-25-2012, 10:44 PM
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 357
iTrader: (1)
BasicConcepts has a spectacular aura aboutBasicConcepts has a spectacular aura about
Re: rear balance shaft timing

From what I was reading people have been running for quite some time with them still installed. One guy said he's running 40k with them still there.
__________________

93 Prelude Si, 435K miles, H22A4 swap, lowered 1.5"

Quote:
Originally Posted by westernprelude View Post
Back seats create babies, babies take money. No backseat, no baby, more money. LOL
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 11-26-2012, 03:12 AM
Vipers4Life's Avatar
Internet Badass

 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,492
iTrader: (1)
Vipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond repute
Re: rear balance shaft timing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lindso View Post
Is it okay to just leave that belt off in the long run with the balance shafts still installed?
Yes, no harm is being done. It may seep a tiny bit of oil in the far future but it's nothing to worry about. There is a mechanic on here that has done this for many people and has never had a problem. If I could I'd go cut mine off right now.
__________________

http://www.preludezone.com/members-r...e-01-base.html
Check out my ride here!^^
Quote:
Originally Posted by twokexlv6coupe View Post
if it's knocking, don't answer it. it's prolly nothing but bad news bears.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brash22 View Post
As much as I'd love to see this done, I offer you the same comment I offer everybody else: There's no point in being the first to do something if you're second across the finish line.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Balance shaft Questions??? BRSoll1484 5th Gen Honda Prelude 10 06-02-2011 09:37 PM
balance shaft cajunoutkast 5th Gen Honda Prelude 4 01-23-2010 04:36 PM
balance shaft delete muha22752 5th Gen Honda Prelude 3 02-13-2009 05:14 PM
Timing & Balance Shaft Belt/Tensioner(s) Replacement Showaski39 4th Gen Honda Prelude 14 07-01-2007 03:33 PM
Rear balance shaft alignment question? Roy Horton General Tech Talk 4 03-03-2007 11:03 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:39 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2 © 2011, Crawlability, Inc.
vB.Sponsors


Copyright © 2006-2009 PreludeZone.com All Rights Reserved.