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Buying a 5th gen VTI-R ??

hey all im from the land down under

i have read through the stickies about these 5th gens and have priced up spares

Now i am thinking of purchasing a prelude i have had a pretty bad car accident not to long ago and can barley walk im pretty much buying it for my little brother i can do simple things like exsuast replacements , servicing expect for the timing belt , i can do all the basic replacement of axeleries , drive shafts and clutches etc

Now the thing is all the preludes im looking at have got the 4 wheel steer are they problematic and they also have about 300K km which i guess is around 180K miles

Thank you in advance i hope i can be a contribution to this forum,I know this has been asked a thousand times but ya :(
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Re: Buying a 5th gen VTI-R ??

cars in that range of KM's will need their second timing belt replacement 150k km is the mark. water pump and t-belt tensioner are also recommended.

I wouldn't say 4ws is problematic, but there are sensors that can go bad over time. Check prices on replacements for the 4ws components to see if it will be worth your while.
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cars in that range of KM's will need their second timing belt replacement 150k km is the mark. water pump and t-belt tensioner are also recommended.

I wouldn't say 4ws is problematic, but there are sensors that can go bad over time. Check prices on replacements for the 4ws components to see if it will be worth your while.
Yeap i have factored in a clutch change due to i will try my best to get a 5 speed, and a t-belt plus water pump and tensioner for good insurance

And also a starter motor or alternator ive looked allot on ebay USA and i see on your eBay you got the regulators etc for the alternators and brushes where as even for our domestic cars in Australia we cant get them its hard to come by

What about the vtec soldernoid i know for a fact not many aussies would have taken it off to clean out ,

Also the oxy sensors no one in Australia do them so that will be a thing as well
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Re: Buying a 5th gen VTI-R ??

Also got anther question im going to be getting some nice coilovers etc now i picked a prelude over a DC2 type R and a DC5 type R as well its just they look so sexy plus are alot cheaper which im a real tight a$$ with money and most likely are not as flogged out

now im curious how well are these as hill run cars i have been in a prelude before and loved it but whats the 4 wheel steer like in "touge runs"

I used to own a manual EK hatch with the poor mans D16 non vtec and that was quite a good hill's car went to a few track days so i guess comparing it to that ?
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Re: Buying a 5th gen VTI-R ??

just do the basic maintenance:

- timing belt job (belts, water pump, tensioners etc)
- clean IACV, FITV, EGR, injectors
- new air/fuel/oil filters
- new fluids/oils
- new spark plugs & wires + distributor cap & rotor
- check suspension and brake parts, clutch? o2 sensor?
- check exhaust

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Also got anther question im going to be getting some nice coilovers etc
CLICK HERE all of you curious about suspension setups and their costs/reliability. - Honda-Tech

I have BC Racing coilovers. dont have anything bad to say about them

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just do the basic maintenance:

- timing belt job (belts, water pump, tensioners etc)
- clean IACV, FITV, EGR, injectors
- new air/fuel/oil filters
- new fluids/oils
- new spark plugs & wires + distributor cap & rotor
- check suspension and brake parts, clutch? o2 sensor?
- check exhaust



CLICK HERE all of you curious about suspension setups and their costs/reliability. - Honda-Tech

I have BC Racing coilovers. dont have anything bad to say about them


nice thank you , this site is very helpful

Also i have got it in my head it is quite normal to burn through a quart of oil every 500-1000miles judging by all the threads so looks like i will just use 15/40
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nice thank you , this site is very helpful

Also i have got it in my head it is quite normal to burn through a quart of oil every 500-1000miles judging by all the threads so looks like i will just use 15/40
h22's burn some oil.. but if it starts burning it a lot it just means that its time to change valve seals and piston rings
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Re: Buying a 5th gen VTI-R ??

changing the pcv valve is also cheap insurance for not pulling oil passed the rings and into the combustion chamber as well. engine has to breathe right?
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Re: Buying a 5th gen VTI-R ??

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just do the basic maintenance:

- timing belt job (belts, water pump, tensioners etc)
- clean IACV, FITV, EGR, injectors
- new air/fuel/oil filters
- new fluids/oils
- new spark plugs & wires + distributor cap & rotor
- check suspension and brake parts, clutch? o2 sensor?
- check exhaust



CLICK HERE all of you curious about suspension setups and their costs/reliability. - Honda-Tech

I have BC Racing coilovers. dont have anything bad to say about them
you should do this maintenance, but depending on your mechanic skills, and how deep your pocket is, these can turn from basic, to way more...

- timing belt - pretty simple and cheap for the mechanically inclined.
expensive by shop... $600+
- clean IACV, FITV, EGR, injectors- simple enough to learn, but takes a little know how.
- new air/fuel/oil filters- simple if you cant figure these out then you should never touch an engine bay.
- new fluids/oils- can be costly depending on what you buy, and what fluids you are doing
- new spark plugs & wires + distributor cap & rotor - simple and in a convienant place on our engines.
- check suspension and brake parts, clutch? o2 sensor? - costly, especially because it is one of the most overlooked areas of a car when it comes to maintenance
- check exhaust - can be costly
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Re: Buying a 5th gen VTI-R ??

nice thanks for the advice guys

So its going to be a safe bet the rings will be worn / valve stem seals especially in our "climate"

i have got a engine crane , would it be easier to change the rings + head gasket and valve stem seals and rear main and all welsh plugs while the motor is in the car , or just take it out ?

Sorry for the edit but

Would i be better to buy a high mileage prelude and get it for 2 to 3K cheaper and factor in a engine top end / piston ring re build , plus new CVs and exsuast + suspension etc , i am kind of mechanically minded at times if i got the car like today my mums BF would be able to even rebuild the manual box etc he knows his stuff lol

The question is would you guys be willing to be a helpful community towards me ;) ?

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nice thanks for the advice guys

So its going to be a safe bet the rings will be worn / valve stem seals especially in our "climate"

i have got a engine crane , would it be easier to change the rings + head gasket and valve stem seals and rear main and all welsh plugs while the motor is in the car
i am kind of mechanically minded at times if i got the car like today my mums BF would be able to even rebuild the manual box etc he knows his stuff lol

The question is would you guys be willing to be a helpful community towards me ;) ?
that reeks of crocodile dundee accent..i love the verbage down there guy.
we here at pz reckon yall can ask sum dag gum questions..
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seriously, if you need to do a timing belt you might as well do the seals anyway at that time. it sounds like you are not using all that much oil though so pistons may still be good to go ring-wise.
this is a very friendly forum and is loaded with over 22 thousand members across the planet. many many many questions have been answered already. there are a number of threads dedicated to what you are about to embark on with your prelude. do some searching around through your favorite search engine and you'll be suprised at how many answers are out there thanx to many fine bloaks like here at pz.

me personally would buy a car with less wear n tear or one the repairs have been done already if i use it everyday. the money you save will quickly be spent in repairs otherwise.
now if it's a toy and not a tool, in other words for fun only...i'd buy the cheaper high wear car provided it has certain aspects going for it. aspects like the body is cherry but the motor is spent, or the body is beaten but the motor is replaced and the interior is nice. others may disagree..
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Re: Buying a 5th gen VTI-R ??

We actually got redneck want to be's well australian version of rednecks in the land down under lol


Hopefully i find a nice prelude but 80% of owners which own them atm here would not even cheek the oil level in them etc
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We actually got redneck want to be's well australian version of rednecks in the land down under lol



Hopefully i find a nice prelude but 80% of owners which own them atm here would not even cheek the oil level in them etc
ugh..dude that sux!!! good luck finding a good one.

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Re: Buying a 5th gen VTI-R ??

this would definately be the community to go to for advice on preludes, the only thing we ask if for you to search before you ask, we know topics that have been covered before, some over and over and over again, so dont fake it and say i searched but nothing found, because we will search and find a lot in a few seconds... but good luck with your choice, either which way you are talking about pulling an engine out and taking it apart... so weigh the prices of parts, plus car and take it from there... also make sure of what engine you are looking into, and decide which one you want, i got an h23 automatic because it was the only one in pretty good shape around my area at the time, but i knew i wanted 2 things from the start, and now i am a year in and wanting these:
H22 euroR, or H23 VTEC
manual conversion

but i cant afford either one yet because I need to focus on replacing all my suspension components right now.....

so point being, find out what you really want, and base your decision on that, we will be here when you need us.
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Re: Buying a 5th gen VTI-R ??

Thank for that

I have read a few reviews and it pointed out some major problems which can go wrong e,g the auto trans , the radiator due to our climate etc

I have read many reviews etc on the VTI-R the Australian edition and our redbook (price guide) with specs says it has 4 wheel steering and i once helped a member from here install a sway bar and he had 4 wheel steer i believe

i have searched on youtube and there are some people showing of there 4 wheel steering , can you feel it if you were to go on a spirited drive ? what is it like

im also hoping nothing goes wrong with my 4 wheel steering
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im also hoping nothing goes wrong with my 4 wheel steering
when I was looking my lude my criterions were

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- NO 4ws
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