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okay so i dropped a type sh motor and tranny in my 2001 prelude.. now im trying to tie up all the loose ends.. im missing a part that sits right on my transmission right before my selector, im assuming its for the gear cables or something like that tryiing to figure out wtf it is, also will a standard ecu work or will i need to buy a type sh ecu? because i know tha the atts unit has its own ecu.. and now that i dropped my motor in, when i went to go start it, the key light went on.... Anti theft... help :/
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Re: type s swap into base, please help

Stop what your are doing and return the sh motor atts is bull**** hp hog thats amounts to nothing less than a loss of hp and farrrr less tunability, get a base motor and if u want better handles get a lsd tranni youll be going faster be real quick off the line and do better at the track
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Re: type s swap into base, please help

if you wanna go around curves faster, atts. if you wanna pull off the corners or go fast in straights, base.

i'm for flowing through curves as fast as possible the rocketing out of them with more momentum than the other guy.
years back my 4 cylinder ranger would out run 8 cylinder f-150's on short chute curvey roads. but on wide turns n straightaways, all i saw were tail lights ahead of me. atts, big lungs and great tires are where it's at for this guy..
oh your question? i dunno..check out the resource thread for a manual.
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okay so i dropped a type sh motor and tranny in my 2001 prelude.. now im trying to tie up all the loose ends.. im missing a part that sits right on my transmission right before my selector, im assuming its for the gear cables or something like that tryiing to figure out wtf it is, also will a standard ecu work or will i need to buy a type sh ecu? because i know tha the atts unit has its own ecu.. and now that i dropped my motor in, when i went to go start it, the key light went on.... Anti theft... help :/
Few questions before diving into this;

Are you trying to make the ATTS work?
If so;

Did you swap over the SH radius rods, upper/lower control arms, knuckle, atts unit and misc sensors?

If not;

Did you install an ATTS blockoff plate and remove the ATTS unit?



other questions;

Are you intending to go obd1 or obd2?

If obd2 - you can use your original ECU but if trying to get the ATTS unit to work, you will need an additional unit near the ECU (for the atts as you already know) I'm unsure if the base and SH ecu's are identical or not, so maybe someone else can chime in on that. You may have an immobilizer related issue.


What was the reason for swapping motors? Did you ever have the ignition switch recall done? Did the car run fine on the previous motor?

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Stop what your are doing and return the sh motor atts is bull**** hp hog thats amounts to nothing less than a loss of hp and farrrr less tunability, get a base motor and if u want better handles get a lsd tranni youll be going faster be real quick off the line and do better at the track
You don't know his reasoning for swapping over to an SH motor, either help or get the **** out.
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Re: type s swap into base, please help

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Re: type s swap into base, please help

"Are you trying to make the ATTS work?
If so;

Did you swap over the SH radius rods, upper/lower control arms, knuckle, atts unit and misc sensors?

If not;

Did you install an ATTS blockoff plate and remove the ATTS unit?

Are you intending to go obd1 or obd2?

If obd2 - you can use your original ECU but if trying to get the ATTS unit to work, you will need an additional unit near the ECU (for the atts as you already know) I'm unsure if the base and SH ecu's are identical or not, so maybe someone else can chime in on that. You may have an immobilizer related issue.


What was the reason for swapping motors? Did you ever have the ignition switch recall done? Did the car run fine on the previous motor?"

new to qouting.. sorry

time, money anbd resources, ii have the entire motor put together, it started on first try, right now ihave the motor out while i clean up the engine bay and get it ready for a shave and tuck.
im trying to make it work, although im discovering morre and more problems as i go along.
new problem: electrical i took out the old wire harness and tried putting in the new one, but it has a couple different plugs.. and i hear there is other **** i have to do... if i could get a how to or a d.i.y. thread or something i can do it... im just cluster ****ed as to what i gotta do now
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Re: type s swap into base, please help

it was a build that i had going i bought the shell for like 1000 browsed the internet for like 5 months and this one came up, an sh motor with everthing that i needed, i put the motor in got it to start now im doing all the electrical bull ****, next i have to target all of the suspension bull **** and im just trying to get an idea as to what i need and how much it costs
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Re: type s swap into base, please help

You didn't answer my questions in regards to the atts. Are you trying to make the ATTS work?

Do you need to stay obd2?


There is as mentioned, a writeup on preludepower. Without answering anything or trying to search - I can't help any further than that.
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remember that its wise to open that new engine and rebuild it...
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remember that its wise to open that new engine and rebuild it...
I think rebuild isn't the term you were looking for, no need to do piston rings, bearings ect on a sub 60k mile motor........ I think you mean service....... as in timing belt, oil pump, water pump... theses services will help ensure the longevity of the motor. Good recommendation from the nordic man
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I think rebuild isn't the term you were looking for, no need to do piston rings, bearings ect on a sub 60k mile motor........
but nobody can say it for sure its only "60k mile motor"!

if you want to keep your car, its wise to open the engine one time and rebuild it. because you have to do it one time for sure in the future.

my engine supposed to be "60k mile"-one too, but without changing all the seals it would be just big oil blender (without cover)! and now I probably have to do the piston rings. and this is 3 years after the swap... so it would have been MUCH easier to do whole rebuild before the swap than now when the engine is in!
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but nobody can say it for sure its only "60k mile motor"!

if you want to keep your car, its wise to open the engine one time and rebuild it. because you have to do it one time for sure in the future.

my engine supposed to be "60k mile"-one too, but without changing all the seals it would be just big oil blender (without cover)! and now I probably have to do the piston rings. and this is 3 years after the swap... so it would have been MUCH easier to do whole rebuild before the swap than now when the engine is in!
if you're going to take it to that extent, there's no need to buy a "new" motor, rebuild what you have.........
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if you're going to take it to that extent, there's no need to buy a "new" motor, rebuild what you have.........
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Re: type s swap into base, please help

i want the atts to work lol
and now i encountered a new problem. the wireharness behind the dash andthe other one that is behind the air bag have been changed but now i have to change the wireharness that goes around back for the taillightd and stuff, one plug doesnt fit so i was wondering if there is like a jumper clip, orr if someone can just point me to a thread that has already been through all thiss...
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i want the atts to work lol
and now i encountered a new problem. the wireharness behind the dash andthe other one that is behind the air bag have been changed but now i have to change the wireharness that goes around back for the taillightd and stuff, one plug doesnt fit so i was wondering if there is like a jumper clip, orr if someone can just point me to a thread that has already been through all thiss...
Wat? They were changed? Wat?

I highly doubt that all of those harnesses were cut, spliced, and changed.

But lets start at the beginning...
-SH motor and transmission into a base, and you want the ATTS to work
You will need an SH engine harness, dash harness, and ECU
-SH motor and transmission into base part 2
You will need SH radius arms, SH knuckles, SH axles, SH speed sensors, SH suspension [minus the shocks because if you're lowering the car on coilovers base coilovers work just fine]
-OBD1 or OBD2
If you go OBD1 there will be no ATTS and if you go OBD2 you will not be able to effectively use ATTS and tune the ECU
-Key light
Stays on if the immobilizer chip in the key and ecu do not match, you need to get Honda to program that.
-Missing transmission part
Probably the piece that holds the shifter cables firmly in place. You NEED this or you won't be able to shift, at least not properly.


have you figured anything else out?
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