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had to use 87 octane oh well.

Today i Finally manned up and waited on a line for almost a hour and a half for gas on Long Island. I pulled up finally to the hess pump and i went to use 93 only to be shut down cause they ran out of premium. I next went to 89 octane and lol their was only like a dollar and some change left. Mad people were waiting so i said Fug it and used regular... How is everyone else with the gas crisis so far? oh by the way i had a half a tank of 93 before i filled up my lude. this is the second time my car seen regular gas in about 5 years soo will see.
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Today i Finally manned up and waited on a line for almost a hour and a half for gas on Long Island. I pulled up finally to the hess pump and i went to use 93 only to be shut down cause they ran out of premium. I next went to 89 octane and lol their was only like a dollar and some change left. Mad people were waiting so i said Fug it and used regular... How is everyone else with the gas crisis so far? oh by the way i had a half a tank of 93 before i filled up my lude. this is the second time my car seen regular gas in about 5 years soo will see.
i have acidently did this 3 times in the past month of my first month owning it and idk why but seriously my car doesnt like that 87 **** to well my dads a mechanic and check all my fuel parts and lines and **** so its just the fuel but it wont allow the car to its full power stutters at 6.7krpm add the premium after ive burned the 87 out and shes back running to full out power band.
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Re: had to use 87 octane oh well.

"Luckily" I lost my job 2 days before Sandy hit, which means I haven't even driven my car in.... almost 2 weeks now, not needing any gas. That's how I'm dealing hahahaha

If it's 1/2 93 and 1/2 87, that means its essentially 90 octane.
And 1 tank of regular every now and then won't hurt anything, just don't beat on the car and be mindful that you're running on regular.

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I'm sure you'll be fine, gas is gas....
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Re: had to use 87 octane oh well.

How bad is it to run 94 octane and then add an octane booster?
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I'm sure you'll be fine, gas is gas....
So long as u dont make a habbit of it u should be ok. I understand ur situation ust sayin. As for gas being gas...not true. If I run anything but 93 in my bike or car they act up n dont run right. If owners manual says 93 run 93 lol. Thats y it says that
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How bad is it to run 94 octane and then add an octane booster?
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Re: had to use 87 octane oh well.

you could always add octane booster to help if your worried. just an idea..keep a bottle or two in your trunk
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Won't be much of a problem if used occasionally. You can always get a fuel additive to increase the octane. I only had to wait 10 minutes today to fill up! Hopefully be back near normal soon.
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Your car will be fine, that's why the knock sensor is there.
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Your car will be fine, that's why the knock sensor is there.
good point. didn't think about that.
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I'm sure you'll be fine, gas is gas....

wrong. our cars say premium unleaded only 93 octane for a reason. its fine to go above that, but its not fine to go below. if its a one time thing, then w.e. you gotta do what you gotta do.
the lower octane you go, you get more carbon build up, you lose performance, and can cause engine damage due to the lower octane fuel igniting prematurely.
its fine to go higher octane, but not recommended to go lower....
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Re: had to use 87 octane oh well.

It says right in the handbook that 93 octane can be substituted for lower unleaded fuel but you'll lose a little bit of power. Nowadays all fuel is unleaded. You'll be fine running regular.
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thanks guys for some answers. Its been crazy over here. I had a huge limb from my tree in my backyard break off and destroy my fence and lost power for a day and a half. it was also pretty cool looking out my window and watching a whole tree go down, it fell perfectly and no damage thank god, took a few days to clean up. next time i go to fill up im going to get some octane booster for the hell of it cause 93 is always out everywhere i go but this is making me mad having to use regular.
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Once you start using premium again, throw some injector cleaner in there. Seafoam or the Lucas w/upper cylinder lubricant are two of my favorites and the top sellers.
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wrong. our cars say premium unleaded only 93 octane for a reason. its fine to go above that, but its not fine to go below. if its a one time thing, then w.e. you gotta do what you gotta do.
the lower octane you go, you get more carbon build up, you lose performance, and can cause engine damage due to the lower octane fuel igniting prematurely.
its fine to go higher octane, but not recommended to go lower....
but like i said, you gotta do what you gotta do.

I know two people that have rarely put premium into their cars even though it's recommended, I myself rarely do it and it's never been an issue for anyone... ever... . Yes, those engines are built for utilizing high octane fuel, but it's not as bad as you describe to have fuel with a lower octane number. It might cause some faster wear on the engine and slight power loss, but gas, IS GAS and a slightly different octane number isn't going to make your engine blow up or cause some kind of damage. At the end of the day, it's a car, and you won't own it long enough to see the damage promised by not using RECOMMENDED octane number fuel.
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I know two people that have rarely put premium into their cars even though it's recommended, I myself rarely do it and it's never been an issue for anyone... ever... . Yes, those engines are built for utilizing high octane fuel, but it's not as bad as you describe to have fuel with a lower octane number. It might cause some faster wear on the engine and slight power loss, but gas, IS GAS and a slightly different octane number isn't going to make your engine blow up or cause some kind of damage. At the end of the day, it's a car, and you won't own it long enough to see the damage promised by not using RECOMMENDED octane number fuel.


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Alex i think you need to check up on what your talking about. at 3k rpms yeah 87 might not be bad but at 7 or 8k on a hot engine? your lucky if you keep your rods straight after the pinging and knocking.
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Re: had to use 87 octane oh well.

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either which way you look at it, your car suffers when you do not use the recommended octane fuel for your car. its not because of the fuel itself. its because of the engine, being the cylinders, compression, etc. when the engine is built, they build it how they decide to build it. the H motors were built as performance motors, and were built to run most efficiently with 93 octane. you can use lower if you choose, but thats the risk you decide to take. you will decrease power in your engine, cause more carbon build up (not by much, but it accumulates), and damage engine components, most comonly pistons. this is due to pre detenation of the fuel because everything is done with perfect timing, and measurements. an engine is not just thrown together and then ran however. everything is taken into consideration of how things will run together, and what effects what. thats why tuning and engine mods are available. to change the things originally set by the manufacturer to increase performance. but if done wrong performance can decrease. another thing that can be caused by using the wrong octane gas is damage to your catalytic converter. this is because unburned fuel goes from cylinder to exhaust and leaks into the cat, ignites from the heat of the cat, and burns up the cat. causing more strain on your engine as well.
so alex, gas is not just gas, so dont mislead people if you dont understand how it works, if you want to damage your engine, thats on you. but dont lead people to believe they should do the same to save a few cents per gallon on their next fill up...

and thanks for the picture nick, thats the perfect picture to show just how badly you can damage your engine by something so "simple"

and h22a4vtec99, im not saying anything bad towards you man, we all gotta do what we gotta do sometimes. but just dont be ignorant about it and start making it a habit to save a couple dimes here and there. good luck with your situation, everything seems to be calming down here now, other than this snow storm...
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Re: had to use 87 octane oh well.

I'm cheap, and often broke... so I'd say honestly more often that not, I just buy regular gas... Is this bad? Car seems to bog way harder with regular gas... I HATE how my prelude bogs. My old integra would never do that, and the bogging pisses me off to the point to where I wanna sell the car. I hate having to rev like a "suped up honda" just to take off in first gear, 2nd gear, very hard to take off in, 4th gear under 40mph, just won't do it. I'm honestly hating my Lude more and more, and I owe close to 6 grand on it still... bought it with under 100k miles, so it's a keeper for a while, but fuuck..
could all of the above problems be because I use regular gas?
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Re: had to use 87 octane oh well.

During Hurricane Katrina, the gas stations in GA ran out of 93 and 89. I had to put 87 in my Prelude. I drove it lightly and was limited to 97 octane for months. I noticed no ill effects from doing so, and later sold it to a friend who has had it for 5 years. He generally abuses the hell out of it, but its still running well. The Prelude is a stout car, which is why I got another one.

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thanks guys for some answers. Its been crazy over here. I had a huge limb from my tree in my backyard break off and destroy my fence and lost power for a day and a half. it was also pretty cool looking out my window and watching a whole tree go down, it fell perfectly and no damage thank god, took a few days to clean up. next time i go to fill up im going to get some octane booster for the hell of it cause 93 is always out everywhere i go but this is making me mad having to use regular.
where u at in LI? I work and live there. I just got power back today, you got lucky with the power.
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Re: had to use 87 octane oh well.

i noticed a big power loss with regular in my lude...id just don't like 87 so i put in 89 without a problem
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i noticed a big power loss with regular in my lude...id just don't like 87 so i put in 89 without a problem
Because the computer retarted the timing to prevent preignition. Retarted timing = less power. If anyone is running a p28 ecu do not use anything other then premium or you will be screwed.
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Re: had to use 87 octane oh well.

If gas is gas and you dont care if your not gonna have it long enough to see the damage then why have an account on a car forum and pretend to take care of a car considering preventive maintenance is all about engine life and performance and even 75% about the next guy thats gonna work on it/own it
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Re: had to use 87 octane oh well.

I like this guy ^^

I don't think running a tank or so of regular in an older car like the Prelude. The newer ones, especially those of the direct-injection variety, will let you know very quickly just how unhappy they are. My mom bought an 09 Mini Cooper S and refused to run premium. Turned the key and the car immediately started clacking and clanging. I was the guy saying "I told ya so".
I haven't run regular in my cobalt or the corvette, but I bet they'd both hate it haha
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Re: had to use 87 octane oh well.

i run the cheap stuff like wawa or sheetz only when needed. my work vehicle runs on 87. i use bp and get an extra commute..that's like 50 more miles per 16 gallon tank. it's worth it to me to pay a few pennies more. many times bp is the same price. but if not it's usually 1 or2$ more in a tank full.

with that said, my preludes only get bp...93
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