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Installing CV Axle problem!

Hello all,

Please forgive any misused parts/terms I use.

I am replacing my passenger side CV axle on my 2001 honda prelude base auto transmission. I took out the broken axle with little to no problems.

My problem is faced with the installation of the new cv axle. I have the inner shaft already locked in to the transmission.

The problem is, I can not get the outboard joint through the wheel hub. It slides in about half way then just comes to a complete stop. I am unable to put the axle nut on since the joint doesn't even come through all the way.

I thought this was just a situation where I have the wrong cv axle, but I can not even put the old one through the wheel hub as well.

Any tips or tricks? Would grease and/or lubricant help? Hoping this is common and some grease/lubricant can help get that sucker in.

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- Inboard joint locked into transmission with no problems
- Outboard joint won't go through the wheel hub all the way, can't even put axle nut on the end.
- Tips/tricks to get outboard joint through wheel hub?

Thanks for any help/advice . New to this. I can supply pics tomorrow if my explanation is troubling.
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Re: Installing CV Axle problem!

i have never done this before, so i cant offer any of my own advice, but i have seen videos recently of people doing this on youtube, on different cars mainly (i like to search up and watch alot of DIY videos because i find them interesting and its tought me alot. so try giving youtube a search or even google, maybe here too.

wish i could help you out more but i dont wanna tell you to do something and be the cause of something going wrong, good luck
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Re: Installing CV Axle problem!

Are you positive the new axle is the correct one for your car?
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Re: Installing CV Axle problem!

You said you can't even put the old ones back in the hub- They came OUTTA the hub, so that obviously means they fit in there. Its an install error. Teh splines on the outer shaft aren't lining up properly with the splines in the hub.
You need to rotate EITHER the axle or rotor maybe 1/2*-1* in either direction to line the splines back up.
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Re: Installing CV Axle problem!

I ran into that problem. Ended up having to take out the strut and disconnect the radius rod to allow more play in the wheel so I could maneuver it around enough to get the distal joint through the..wheel hole.
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^^^ Damm I don't look forward to doing this soon :/ lol but good advice from some members
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Re: Installing CV Axle problem!

Coming from personal experience, I just smoke it into the transmission until there's less that 1mm gap between the tranny and the axle big piece. It's worked 3/3 axle swaps
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Coming from personal experience, I just smoke it into the transmission until there's less that 1mm gap between the tranny and the axle big piece. It's worked 3/3 axle swaps

That's not where he's having the problem
It's already mated inside the tranny. He can't get it into the wheel hub.
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Re: Installing CV Axle problem!

Or try putting it in the wheel first, and the tranny second. I've never tried it that way.
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The splines on the outer shaft aren't lining up properly with the splines in the hub.
You need to rotate EITHER the axle or rotor maybe 1/2*-1* in either direction to line the splines back up.
^^This is most likely OPs problem.

Make sure the hub and axle splines are dead on, ie. perpendicular to one another. If the angle is off, they won't go in either.

Also, make sure the splines in the hub are clean and free of debris.
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Re: Installing CV Axle problem!

I did mine wheel first. As per the service manual...

Taking loose the lower arm, and radius arm ball joint with a pickle fork and the damper fork with a pair of 17mm tools.

1) Pull back the knuckle and damper fork, slide the 'axle' up into the fork. Put jack, jackstand or other person holding the inboard joint and axle level with the knuckle. My splines did what op stated... went about halfway and froze.

2) Manuver the outboard joint so the splines start into the knuckle. Grease the splines first. Remove excess grease every two to three splines to allow air to flow. (Yes.. this matters, helps burp the greasey splines.)
Kinda twist/shake the knuckle while pulling the splines towards you into the knuckle.
I did 1 & 2 via stool next to the car. A few light taps on the outboard joint got it sticking out enough to apply the nut and finish pulling it through. REMOVE THE NUT AFTER IT'S ALL THE WAY THROUGH OR YOU WILL PULL THE INBOARD JOINT APART WHEN DRIVING IT HOME!!!!! It needs to slide back out as necessary when installing the inboard joint.
I know from experience. Ugh.

3) Climb under car. Grab axle part, move it towards the knuckle so the inboard joint starts into the tranny or drive shaft bearing. It it does not go linear as in straight in, pull the joint and axle apart a little. If the axle is all the way into the joint it binds and WILL NOT allow the splined part to line up linear.
Once it's linear it almost goes in by itself. The knuckle weight pushes the inboard splines home some.

4) Push spline home. Should go about 95% or more. But lock ring makes it not go 100% if it's any good. 2x4 and 3# hammer time. Board against the inboard boot. One good whack and it'll move home. You'll see it move. Climb under car to ensure the gap is closed.
I gave it another whack but you may not need to.

5) Reassemble suspension snug. Lower car. Tighten bolts.

6) Not required. Have car aligned to ensure the wheel is correct and the expert can double check yours suspension assembly.

Have help if possible. 2-3 hours total wheel off wheel on with experienced help.
I did it alone. About 10-15 hours due to inexperience and lots of in/out/in/out under the car.
I did mine a couple hours at a time over an 8 day time. I learned as I went.
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