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Help! Vtec

VTEC not working!!
Ok so I hit vtec going up a hill and probably wasn't a good idea. Anyways burnt oil smell was stronger than usual then my next start up CEL came on and I was still able to hit vtec again a few more times. But after I had the car sitting for about 2-3hrs and I noticed vtec stop kicking in, even after I let the engine warm some more. So I went to get the CEL code right away and it was P0420 which has nothing to do with vtec?

Anyways I searched and did the following:
Cleaned the vtec solenoid - car was warm tried vtec in every gear, it might have hit on 2,3,4 gear but I could barely notice it. it stopped again after that first time. Ordered a new screen/gasket tho.


Checked the oil - this sound so dumb because I'm pretty sure I know how to check oil lmao. Anyways so I check the dipstick 5-10mins after I shut off the car from 10miles ride, wipe it off, stick it back in and nothing just some splatter on the side of the dipstick. So I drove it around again and checked, 2 holes were filled but again only splatter on the side. Also my oil light comes on for 1sec after I startup the car. I want to add oil but idk what oil tiresplus put on there. Its only been 1000 miles since last oil change.

Sorry for long post but any opinions and advices would greatly appreciate it.

As for the P0420 code I gonna replace my o2 sensors and go from there.
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Vtec doesn't engage when oil is low.
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I would change my oil again and make sure you put the correct amount of oil back in. Like stated above vtec is engaged by oil pressure so if there is not enough oil you will run into some problems
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Ok thanks. The car is 169000 miles btw and I've only own it for a month today. I was thinking to seafoam it before the next oil change. I wanted to wait till 3k so I can save some money just in case leaks come up after the seafoam. For the mean time can I just add some oil in it maybe? And what's the proper way to check oil??? Lol I've tried every how to's I found from google and nothing works. Or am I really low on oil that nothing shows on the dipstick? I've also read somewhere that I can drain the oil and pour it back in to check how much qtz im missing... Is that safe?
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Re: Help! Vtec

Did you clean both solenoid gaskets?
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Re: Help! Vtec

This is the how to I used - How to: Vtec Solenoid Cleaning.
What's the other gasket should I clean?
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Re: Help! Vtec

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And what's the proper way to check oil???

Top dot = full, bottom dot = 1qt low, I believe.
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Is it normal to burn oil when you hit Vtec?
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Re: Help! Vtec

Yes. H series motors just drink oil, period.
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Re: Help! Vtec

ok first question, why would you try to hit vtec when your cel is on, that is your car trying to tell you something isn't right. Second, if there is no oil on your dipstick why are you driving that car without putting some oil in it? I would start by putting some oil in your car and finding out what that cel is for.
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Re: Help! Vtec

X 2 I don't give that engine more than 6 months
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Ok thanks. The car is 169000 miles btw and I've only own it for a month today. I was thinking to seafoam it before the next oil change. I wanted to wait till 3k so I can save some money just in case leaks come up after the seafoam. For the mean time can I just add some oil in it maybe? And what's the proper way to check oil??? Lol I've tried every how to's I found from google and nothing works. Or am I really low on oil that nothing shows on the dipstick? I've also read somewhere that I can drain the oil and pour it back in to check how much qtz im missing... Is that safe?
Make sure you're on level ground with the car off. Pull the dipstick out and wipe it clean then put it back in all the way. Now pull it out and see how high the oil is on the stick. It should be on the highest dot (second one). If it isn't put oil in that mofo and keep checking it till it's at the second dot.
Never drive your car if there's no oil or you're not sure. That's a good way to f*ck your engine up.
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Re: Help! Vtec

I guess I really didn't know how to check my oil lolol.

Right after shut off: both holes are filled.


15mins later:


And I guess I need to add oil huh.
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that oil is blacker than the starving kids on day time television.... (psst i black i can say it)
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that oil is blacker than the starving kids on day time television.... (psst i black i can say it)
ROFL!

Seriously, Ngengok99, there is a post in here, somewhere, from someone who ran the car on almost no oil and now his engine is pretty much trashed. I've only owned my (first) Prelude for about 2 months, now, and the message has been driven home.. OIL IS CRITICAL to these engines. If the level is not right at or above the bottom hole, don't drive. Period. Until you get oil into it.
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i dont understand, you say both holes are filled? but the oil is like 3 inches up past the 2nd hole, same in the second picture... someone explain this to me cause i really wanna know, ive checked my oil and it was like that right after the car was running, but after the car was running on my old car it was at the max line... none above it... do honda dipsticks read different?? cause i wanna know for sure next time i check my oil (IN THE MORNING) lol
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ROFL!

Seriously, Ngengok99, there is a post in here, somewhere, from someone who ran the car on almost no oil and now his engine is pretty much trashed. I've only owned my (first) Prelude for about 2 months, now, and the message has been driven home.. OIL IS CRITICAL to these engines. If the level is not right at or above the bottom hole, don't drive. Period. Until you get oil into it.
I know OIL IS CRITICAL!! but wow I feel so dumb I mean I knew that lude burns oil and all but i didnt thought that bad... i mean i went out to walmart to buy conventional oil right... 4 qrtz and i poured 3 1/2 to fill all the way to 2nd hole.

OK thats like 3 1/2 qrtz burned oil in 1000ish miles??? Is that normal/possible?? or Tiresplus didnt put enough oil in there...wtf!!!
I hope its not an oil leak.

Ahhh fml!!! damn that was a pretty bad f up
hopefully my engine will live! only time will tell.

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See that little drip of oil on the dipstick? That's your oil level. Not the residue that goes up a few inches. It should be thick oil on there up to the second dot. I wouldn't drive it with the oil that low
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You should check your oil more often. Probably every time you gas up would be wise.
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You should check your oil more often. Probably every time you gas up would be wise.
This. My car burns about half a quart in a full tank. Always try to keep at least a 1 qt jug in your trunk or something.
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Re: Help! Vtec

Yeah I did check my oil every other week but I wasn't reading it right. So I learned lol.. Good advice to check/add oil on every fill up and yes I did bought extra oil to leave on my trunk. Also someone recommended to put oil stabilizer so I'm gonna do that.
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oil consumption depends how much you hit vtec. plus h's do burn oil naturally. also the P0420 means your cat is out. might want to replace that too
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put a quart of oil in your engine... then look at the dip stick again.. start from there

also, vtec is extremelly vulnerable to failure if it is activated when you have very low oil. and i mean permanent failure, and possible engine damage
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oil consumption depends how much you hit vtec. plus h's do burn oil naturally. also the P0420 means your cat is out. might want to replace that too
Yeah in going to replace my cat. Thinking about going magnaflow high flow. Got any recommendation?
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replace the cat, and find out what made it fail, cats are not supposed to fail for a long time, if ever
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I rarely hit VTEC and I don't burn oil quick but when I do hit VTEC I have to top it off the next day.
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I check my oil once a week, if driving regularly. When/If I hit VTEC, I check it the next morning. The 'lude is burning, on average, half a quart per week.

Does ANYONE sell oil by the case, anymore? I know some places have the 5qt bottles, but I don't want that. I just want to buy a case, leave it in the garage, and keep two quarts in the trunk at all times.

I've looked at WalMart, no cases. Costco and Sams have cases, but they don't carry the oil I use (Pennzoil High Mileage or Valvoline High Mileage synth blend.)
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I always buy the big 5qt bottles but you could buy the 1qt singles. Or try online? Buying the singles may be cheaper tho.
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1qt singles at WallyWorld (WalMart) are almost $5 each. Was hoping for a price break by purchasing in bulk.

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Re: Help! Vtec

I check my oil every morning now. Haven't hit vtec since and it seems like im not burn much oil and i still haven't add Lucas oil stabilizer because I dont want to over fill.
Im going to put Amsoil FULL Syn next oil change but i was thinking about doing seafoam on gas, vacuum and oil before my next oil change. Should I or Not? If so should I do it before or after i replace o2 sensor and cat converter? and im gonna replace my fuel filter after seafoam too.
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