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So, I took my car to a national chain to have the oil changed. Never once thought to check it immediately after. Drove it for a week (mostly highway, mostly high speed, mostly high acceleration) and a friend said that he thought he could smell oil, last night.

I checked the level, tonight, and it looks like it's about 1/2 to 1 quart OVER the level.

What are the odds I've damaged a seal? If so, how expensive to fix?
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Re: Oil over-filled?

OH.. and given that these engines eat oil, should I drain some? Or let the engine consume the excess?
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Re: Oil over-filled?

When you checked the oil level was it on level ground? Was the car just turned off? You gotta give the car time to let the oil settle then check it, if not you will get a wrong reading though usaully it will show you have less it's best to check it when it's cool.
You could drain some just make sure you don't drain too much. Learn to change your oil yourself it's super easy and you know what your doing to your car to prevent screw ups :)
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Re: Oil over-filled?

About it damaging the engine or leaving it in for the engine to burn off I can't help someone with more knowledge will need to help :)
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When you checked the oil level was it on level ground? Was the car just turned off? You gotta give the car time to let the oil settle then check it, if not you will get a wrong reading though usaully it will show you have less it's best to check it when it's cool.
You could drain some just make sure you don't drain too much. Learn to change your oil yourself it's super easy and you know what your doing to your car to prevent screw ups :)
When I checked the oil, the engine had been turned off for about an hour, and it was on a level garage floor. I'll check it, again, in a minute or two.
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Re: Oil over-filled?

from my understanding when over filled it turned the oil into a bubbly type froath. like one of them starbucks coffee.
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Re: Oil over-filled?

If it is any too full, drain just until its at the right level. Our 5th gen ludes take a full 5qts, so that must not have been paying attention.

Never run over the oil level. There are 2 holes in the dipstick, just keep it as close to the top one as possible. If you go below the bottom one, fill it up. I check mine like once a week and its usually like 1/4 qt low
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Re: Oil over-filled?

I always try to keep it between the holes. I'm just pissed off that a supposed professional can't be bothered to actually do his/her job properly. If a seal is busted as a result, I have no proof who is at fault, plus a costly repair job on top.
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Re: Oil over-filled?

Relax, changing oil or over filling doesn't ruin seals. You should keep an eye on your oil filter, lots of places change the oil, leave on the same filter, saves about 1/2 quart a change and you'll never know. You can watch them perform the work, just don't meddle.

1000% easier to diy. You spend what, 60.00-80.00 on tools and pan. I track my own mileage and know I can change it on my schedule, not drive extra miles on dirty oil.

The frothing happens when the oil level is high enough to remain at the crank level and well splashing oil where it's not needed isn't a good thing. Drain a quart, the add back what's missin on the dipstick. If it's good, store it in a glass jar with lid until you do need it.

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Re: Oil over-filled?

Checked the level, again, while COLD (more than 24 hours off); still over.

Drove the 3 miles back to the shop never revving over 2.5k, parked it, told the guy what happened. He gets manager, who apologizes and says he wants to know the date I brought it in so he knows which tech to kill.

They pull it into a bay, and instead of watching through the window (like I _SHOULD_ have been doing), I sit down and watch TV. A few minutes later, manager comes in with the dipstick (the oil dipstick, not the tech who overfilled it) showing that the oil was right at the top hole. He shugs, "This is where it's at. Are you sure it was overfilled?"

What do you guys think? Damage control? Or is my 'lude trying to make me look like an idiot?
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Re: Oil over-filled?

As soon as you drive it for more than a about 30 seconds the extra oil is dispursed throught the engine. leaving a false reading on the stick
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As soon as you drive it for more than a about 30 seconds the extra oil is dispursed throught the engine. leaving a false reading on the stick
True, but it was a good 1/4"-1/3" past the second hole when I checked it (on a level garage floor); it was at the second hole when the manager showed me; and now that the engine has been off for almost 4 hours I checked and it's (drum roll).. at the second hole.

I think they drained a bit before he showed me the level.

And I'm worried about a busted seal because the last five cars I've owned all had oil leaks, and a friend (mechanic at a BMW shop) told me that he smelled oil when I showed the car to him about two minutes after I shut the engine off. Maybe he smelled oil coming out the tailpipe, IDK. But this car has, so far (knock on digital wood), not displayed any spots on the garage floor. So.. I'll drive it to work, tomorrow.. but I'm still going to be thinking something is wrong.
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Re: Oil over-filled?

Now I'm genuinely concerned about my 'lude. EVERY time I shut off the engine, I smell oil. This did not happen in the last two months I've owned the car. I'm pretty sure oil is leaking from somewhere, now.
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Re: Oil over-filled?

Stop panicking. If the shop was clumsy in draining the oil, the extra oil is gonna be baking on the parts of the engine that it hit. This is normal. Now if you wake up and look under the car and see about a shotglass worth of oil in a couple of spots, those are seals.

Another reason I don't do express changes anymore. Sloppy rush jobs to make deadlines. I'll take a nice confortable hour making sure I don't skip or skimp a step and my car is better for it. Tomorrow check the area around your oil filter for signs of leaks.
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Re: Oil over-filled?

This is why I do my oil changes. Read too many shops doing a ****ty job on oil changes and messing up engines. I would suggest just doing it yourself.

Buy oil pan, filter, oil and drain plug washer.
Jack up car.
Pop hood and take off oil cap.
Unbolt the drain plug.
Wait 15 minutes.
Torque up the drain bolt.
Take off oil filter.
Put a coat of oil around the filter gasket.
Clean surface.
Screw it on.
Fill it up with oil and check the dipstick to make sure it's correct.

Takes maybe 30 minutes to an hour to do.
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Re: Oil over-filled?

Umm, our fifth gens shouldn't take 5 quarts unless you have an H23A (blue top) swap. My 99 takes 4.2. That includes the filter capacity.

If I'm wrong, I'd like to know how 4 quarts gets me to just under the top hole on level ground...
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Usaully when I do my oil change I get some oil on the flex pipe and after it smells like oil for a while nothing to be worried about. Just keep an eye out for leaks.
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Re: Oil over-filled?

Trying not to panic. It's just that I finally own a car that I really care about, one that wasn't trashed before I bought it, one that I'm starting to obsess over. And if there is any damage due to some knucklehead not paying attention, I'm going to explode.

Every time I try to have something nice, someone/something usually comes along and ruins it.

And the only reason I don't change the oil myself is time. M-F I leave at 6:30am and don't get home until 5:30pm, and weekends are house chores (cleaning, laundry, etc.) Time is a commodity that I am short of.
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Don't worry better then some people who don't care about their cars and run it beyond ****ty.
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The smell of oil when I shut off the engine is STRONG.

Either they spilled oil on the engine (a lot of it) when they drained it (which makes no sense), or there is a leak.

Considering the fact that I drive over the speed limit to get to work, I'm inclined to believe the latter. No spots, yet, but time will tell.
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Re: Oil over-filled?

you should try decaf my friend.
if you don't have about 1 hr every 3-4k miles, to do it yourself.. find a reputable mechanic.. maybe the guy who does your annual inspection and let them do your car. i do most of my own work and my schedule mon-sat 6am to 6pm. but when i'm either in over my head or just don't wanna do it i have a mechanic on my speed dial.

maybe your freind at the bmw shop can be your mechanic
maybe what you smell is power steering fluid? they leak at times.
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I trust the guy who does inspections. Unfortunately, it's the kind of shop where you drop your car off and they finish it the next day. Oil changes, too. :(

Sigh.. well, I'm going to get jack stands, today.. might as well look into oil filter wrench, oil drain tub (where do I give the used oil to?), spark plug puller, etc.
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i always stick a rag under the oil filter to soak up 99% of the oil that would've spilled onto the parts below..paper towels work too..it lessens that burning smell..
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"yorba linda"??

Okay, so I got the correct connectors, then. What.. I cut the connector off the blue wire and crimp this butt connector on to that? And the male end of the orange wire by firewall will just slip in? Or do I need to crimp that, too?

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