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Buying a 5th Gen Auto?

Hello all.

I am new, so forgive me if I appear to have no knowledge about anything prelude or car related in general.

I have recently been looking in upgrading to a 5th gen prelude, because I just like the look of them, the sound, etc. I am almost positively getting an automatic because I do not know standard and don't care to learn, so for the sake of keeping this on topic, please refrain from telling me to get a manual. I know all the benefits, but I am not looking to race, travel long distance or anything like that.

Anyway, I have of course read all about the problems auto trannies have, and that is where my primary concern lies. I would be buying used and have a budget of $7000, although I would prefer to stay close to or under $6000. I am wondering if all auto 'ludes carry the tranny problems; I would probably be getting one with 120k+ kms. I would be driving this as a commuter to work, school, gym, and occasionally for some fun driving friends and the likes. Is it worth the risk getting a used prelude for this purpose simply because I am a fan of them, or should I avoid them?

Are there any other problem areas I would want to check out? I am also curious how they handle in winter. Where I live it can get to 0 degrees Celsius and even a bit lower, and it does snow a bit, although the past few years we have had no snow in winter. (Vancouver BC region.)

Any feedback is appreciated.
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Re: Buying a 5th Gen Auto?

Yes 98.9% of the auto trannys have problems and the the ones that don't....will soon!! I had one, it failed, now it is a manual! Every one I personally know that had one...the all started doing the same thing. One girl I know had it rebuilt 3 separate times from the dealer. within 4 years.

So either learn to drive stick, or get ready to keep pulling that tranny out, and sinking tons of money into it.

And NO, they suck in the snow!
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Re: Buying a 5th Gen Auto?

Yeah sorry sir. . .

If you are looking for a decent "sporty" automatic transmission car, a Prelude really isn't it.

If you love the Prelude, by all means buy one. However, if you are not a believer in faith, start believing now because it will come in handy with that auto down the road.

We are all Prelude lovers and don't care about what tranny it has when all is said and done. Read up on the auto tranny failure guide (Sticky in 5th gen forum). When you go to test drive, pay attention to all the things listed and see if any of those problems are present. If they are, steer clear. Also make sure the fluid is a nice bright pinkish red. A brownish fluid that smells like absolute crap is probably in a tranny that is on its way out.

They can and do fail quite often, but a well maintained one shouldn't give you much of a problem for a long time.

Florida boy here so our change of seasons is only from hot to hotter. Don't know about the winter problems lol.

Oh, stay out of the SportShift mode. That is what royally destroys auto trannies.

6k is a hell of a good budget for a nice prelude. Wish you the best of luck on it.
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Re: Buying a 5th Gen Auto?

Don't get a auto 5th gen. Trust me you will hate yourself for getting it after it begins to slip fails etc. I bought a auto not knowing of the curse and now Im stuck with it slipping from 1st to 2nd getting ready to spend money on a 5spd swap that I could of avoided a long time ago. If you don't wanna learn 5spd at all then your better off getting something other then a 5th gen Prelude. It sucks but unless you wanna spend 1k on a rebuilt every so often it's not worth it at all..
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Re: Buying a 5th Gen Auto?

I heard it was a problem with the 97-98 preludes and they kinda fixed it with the 99-01? I may be wrong and I don't want a flame war on me. Hah.
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Re: Buying a 5th Gen Auto?

Nope, all auto transmissions will fail. Know this and lament.

The bright side is You can save a lot by getting the Auto and spend the extra on the swap, there are plenty of pulled transmissions and engines for the 5th gen prelude. A lot of member's here by a cherry mint Auto, source the parts needed for the swap, and get an otherwise looked over Honda and breathe new life into it.

Spend 150.00, and go to a driving school, and beat up their manual cars. I never thought I'd drive a manual either, took some classes and I only buy cars with the MT. Automatics are for SUVs and Luxury cars.

If you must get an automatic, get an TL 2002 or later.
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Re: Buying a 5th Gen Auto?

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Don't get a auto 5th gen.
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Re: Buying a 5th Gen Auto?

Do not try and talk yourself into getting an automatic Prelude. It's a bad idea. If you want a Prelude, you pretty much have to go with a manual transmission if you're looking for reliability. Prelude isn't the car for you, keep searching, you'll find something! Best of luck!
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Re: Buying a 5th Gen Auto?

I think I will just join this because sometimes the more that tell you something, the more it sinks in. Don't do it man, stay away from the auto Prelude! Shortly after I bought my prelude I saw the same dealer had a white one. It was an auto and told them I heard they are notorious for failing. He then informed me that he just got it back from having it rebuilt.
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Re: Buying a 5th Gen Auto?

Learning a manual isn't all that hard. It will be a little difficult in the beginning, but after a while it will get much easier. Hell, even if you don't care about vtecing or anything. It's still worth it. That's why you see so many automatic Preludes on Craigslist for sale, because they are close to going out and they are trying to pawn it on someone else. Honda Prelude is the only car that sucks as an automatic. I heard you can get a custom built automatic tranny, but they cost about $4,000 or so I heard. But I'd advise you to go get something better, if you have your mindset on an automatic. Not to be an arse or anything, but it's the truth. The automatic version is just as bad as the auto tensioner on our engines. They can go out at any time.
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Re: Buying a 5th Gen Auto?

worst mistake i made:
buying an auto prelude
i love my prelude (4th gen) but i got an auto for the same reason that you would get one... i didn't know how to drive stick, and didn't really care to learn. now i can't wait for my auto tranny to die so I can swap in a manual and all components.... my friend taught me how to drive manual, and i loved it, and every time i drive now i wish my lude was manual.... but my transmission was supposedly rebuilt 7000 miles before i bought her. and just to give you an idea, i drive the speed limits, unless on highways or occasional back roads with no cops, but i dont beat on my car because i dont need to cause problems for me to fix lol. i also dont use the sport shift unless i have real bad hesitation in the morning and thats really the only way for me not to have it.
but my auto tranny has 18xxx miles on it rebuilt, and its already starting to slip once maybe every other week, and when it shifts into another gear its a little rough...

you never know man, you might enjoy driving manual, gives you more of a feel between you, your car, and the road. but if you wanna stay auto, and you like the prelude, just get one, but like everyone else is saying be prepared to pay for a new tranny from time to time. but youll be alright, its not hard at all to find auto trannys cheap lol, no one wants one lol.

as far as snow, i had no problem last winter but idk if there is a difference with the 4th and 5th with that... good luck making your choice
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Re: Buying a 5th Gen Auto?

The supposedly fixed it for the 99-01 models but they really didn't Mines 01 and it's slipping. There's no way to have a auto Prelude without it failing or slipping down the road.
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Sorry that we all took a crap on your happiness! We're only looking out for you and your wallet!

Lmao it's so funny how everyone who's dealt with and auto Prelude is begging you not to do it. It's not coincidence though.

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Learning a manual isn't all that hard. It will be a little difficult in the beginning, but after a while it will get much easier. Hell, even if you don't care about vtecing or anything. It's still worth it. That's why you see so many automatic Preludes on Craigslist for sale, because they are close to going out and they are trying to pawn it on someone else. Honda Prelude is the only car that sucks as an automatic. I heard you can get a custom built automatic tranny, but they cost about $4,000 or so I heard. But I'd advise you to go get something better, if you have your mindset on an automatic. Not to be an arse or anything, but it's the truth. The automatic version is just as bad as the auto tensioner on our engines. They can go out at any time.
You mean one of the MANY cars that suck as an autotragic
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Get a manual. It'll be worth it.
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Re: Buying a 5th Gen Auto?

get a prelude but make sure its 5 speed.. if u want automatic get a civic
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Re: Buying a 5th Gen Auto?

Well, I am certainly in the minority and would listen to the wisdom of experience.
2001 Prelude with 233K miles, no problems, knock on wood. I do meticulously maintain auto and very easy on it. I try to keep the carbon blown of the out of the engine, kick in VTEC ever so often, but really treat her like a fine woman....because I love her! I just averaged 29 MPG on last tank and really like driving the lude daily.
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Do not get an auto prelude unless its under 1000 lmao. You may get lucky or you may not. Its more than likely you won't be. Standard shouldn't take longer than a day to learn :p.
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Well, I never kept an automatic long. So, I don't know how long they last and whatnot.
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Well, I am certainly in the minority and would listen to the wisdom of experience.
2001 Prelude with 233K miles, no problems, knock on wood. I do meticulously maintain auto and very easy on it. I try to keep the carbon blown of the out of the engine, kick in VTEC ever so often, but really treat her like a fine woman....because I love her! I just averaged 29 MPG on last tank and really like driving the lude daily.
Your super lucky. Never had a rebuilt? Your really the 2nd person I've heard of with a auto not failing on them at such high miles.
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Re: Buying a 5th Gen Auto?

Yeah...Im gonna have to advise against it as well. If you want something that's going to handle in the winter and have no problems, you might go with either an SUV or a 02ish TL. The problem with the auto trannies in our cars is that Honda rushed it into production because it to compete with Porsche's Tiptronic auto...So they didn't develop it very well. It has something to do with the heat and close tolerances involved in the transmission. If you've got your mind absolutely set on an auto Prelude, we definitely will welcome you to the community, but make sure you get yourself a transmission cooler(Mishimoto makes a good one I believe) and keep the tranny fluid in check.

Mwalker...29 mpg? You lucky son of a gun, and to all, an auto in any sports car is a tragedy. Even with some of the higher-class dual clutch autos with manual shifting and all that. Yeah, sure it shifts quicker than you ever could hope to, but good luck working on it 5 years down the road. Anyways, just my .02 on the matter.
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Re: Buying a 5th Gen Auto?

So i'll be the second person with a high mileage auto tran lude...i got it with 50k five years ago..i live on long island and use it as my daily driver...all i do is drive fast..i ve got 155k and havent had a problem yet. So my advice is to try ur best to get a low mileage car, aim for nothing older than a 99-01 model, follow all that the others have advised regarding testing it to look for issues, decide if major upgrades are in ur future ( this would make getn a manual best move) and go from there. Snow and bad weather is a problem for all vehicles...best to leave a low riding coupe at home if more than 1 inch of snow is in the forecast. Front wheel drive means its not suicide to drive the lude in winter. Handling is great in all but the worst weather, lastly winter driving on true all season tires is safe( the stock tires or acceptable replacements. No low profile summer tires. good luck.
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