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what up PZ locals. i've been looking for a *nice* 5th gen, leaning towards '00 and '01 models for the past 3 months. i've been pretty picky, so i haven't looked at many cars.

i did go see one prelude i really wanted but it had some minor issues i could take care of myself, however one thing i noticed, i have no experience on. i'm decent with mechanics of cars but this one is kind of above me.

when driving straight, going through the gears from a stop and hitting upper rpm's, the steering would jump to the left when the clutch was released and power was applied in the next gear. seems to me like not enough power coming to the left front tire.

before i drove the car, i asked why the front right tire was worn more then the front left. owner assured me it was not an alignment issue, and he was right. the car tracked fine and the steering was nice and tight. while driving the car, i showed him the car pulled left, at which time i understood why the front right tire is wearing faster. an O2 sensor was bad, and the car felt a bit sluggish imo. (may have been the O2 sensor) he had the car maintained at dealerships, and scheduled maintenance seemed up to date.

so does anyone know what may make an uneven distribution of power between the front wheels. it's most noticeable when acceleration is hard initially in the gear. i imagine it is constant throughout acceleration, just not as noticeable. had it not been for this, i would have bought the car...
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Re: unequal power delivery to front wheels

Sounds like a differential problem to me. The purpose of a differential is to allow one wheel to spin faster than the the other during cornering. So I guess what's happening to that car is its doing it all the time
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Re: unequal power delivery to front wheels

Torque steer?
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Re: unequal power delivery to front wheels

It's normal if you shift and gas it hard, that would be torque steer like dbd said. Lack of a LSD will contribute to this characteristic. If the car does it all the time, that would be alignment.
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Re: unequal power delivery to front wheels

thanks for the replies. i did just read up on torque steer on wikipedia which would lead me to the next logical question: 5th gen owners, especially manual transmission owners, do your cars jerk left when pushing through the gears higher in rpm's?

personally, i thought it was a bit extreme to be a normal situation. i really wish i had a video of it.
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Re: unequal power delivery to front wheels

Torque steer is a pretty frequent thing that happens on FWD cars. Get someone that is familiar to driving FWD cars, have them drive your car and give you their opinion.
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Re: unequal power delivery to front wheels

I think it could even be a balljoint, u can check whats throwing off your alignment (if anything) by jacking up a front wheel till its off the ground, grab at 12 and 6 O'clock and try to wiggle, if there is any play then it is your upper or lower ball joints. Grab at 9 and 3 and wiggle, if there is any play then it is your tie rod ends ? i think It could be why the car doesnt hold an alignment.
This procedure could also expose an already bad wheel bearing, so if your **** wiggles, learn to tell the difference between a suspension play issue and a bearing play issue..
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Torque steer is a pretty frequent thing that happens on FWD cars. Get someone that is familiar to driving FWD cars, have them drive your car and give you their opinion.
i've owned an integra for 38k miles. i drove it hard at times, but never experienced such a jerk. oddly enough, i'd swear that 130 hp integra accelerated faster than the prelude i test drove. unfortunately, the car in question is in new england and i live in virginia. i was bummed to have to tell the owner his car is not in as good of condition as he thought and pass on buying it.

static420, i'm pretty good at feeling suspension play vs other issues. really, the car tracked perfectly straight, turned on a dime with precision and handled quite well. it sat on the 17" rsx type s wheels. i did take zig zag lines and such to check for noises and play while driving. i didn't have the opportunity to lift it and check for wheel play. the calipers were getting sticky (beginning to seize) with excessive brake rub. i noticed this when i touched the front rims after a short test drive (maybe 10 miles) and the front rims were very hot. so maybe bearings were affected by the heat?

i guess i'll try to find some other manual preludes and give them a test ride. i'm 100% sure that hard of a jerk isn't normal. not to that degree.
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Re: unequal power delivery to front wheels

Due that shizz happens to me all the time.. as soon as i go into vtec it torque steers. happens in first and second really hard. i think it's kind of fun tho. a few GSR Teg owners that i know have the same torque steer when hitting vtec.
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i've owned an integra for 38k miles. i drove it hard at times, but never experienced such a jerk. oddly enough, i'd swear that 130 hp integra accelerated faster than the prelude i test drove. unfortunately, the car in question is in new england and i live in virginia. i was bummed to have to tell the owner his car is not in as good of condition as he thought and pass on buying it.

static420, i'm pretty good at feeling suspension play vs other issues. really, the car tracked perfectly straight, turned on a dime with precision and handled quite well. it sat on the 17" rsx type s wheels. i did take zig zag lines and such to check for noises and play while driving. i didn't have the opportunity to lift it and check for wheel play. the calipers were getting sticky (beginning to seize) with excessive brake rub. i noticed this when i touched the front rims after a short test drive (maybe 10 miles) and the front rims were very hot. so maybe bearings were affected by the heat?

i guess i'll try to find some other manual preludes and give them a test ride. i'm 100% sure that hard of a jerk isn't normal. not to that degree.

I've had a bad bearing, rear driver side, and the feeling is much different form susp issues, it always has the same feel to it, no matter where u grab the wheel, has a distinct sound, and it feels as if the center of the rim is wobbling as opposed to things which are farther apart (such as ball joints). Best way to diagnose bearing is to take the wheel off and jiggle the hub around by hand in various directions.
In your case , I dont think the bearing is causing the power difference, but u dont want it to heat up like crazy. As for the calipers, sounds like u need new shims and lube, or a bleeding (excessive air in you lines can heat up alot), and if it gets too hot, then rebuild or get new calipers because the rubber seals cant take too much abuse. That brake rub sounds like a culprit tho, but if your brake was always sticking u would feel it while driving slow and steady too, not just while pounding it... This is kind of a weird one... get a drivetrain inpection. Intermediate shaft, both cv's and so on..
On another note, im just wondering if it could be a broken or damaged stabilizer/sway bar causing your pull...
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Re: unequal power delivery to front wheels

Hey i just tried something for you..i went out and took the lude for a test drive and when i smoke my tires..they spin evenly not pulling to either side...when i get on it and hit the vtec it pulls to on side (torque steer). other wise it doesn't pull just wheni get the jolt of power from vtec.
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no wonder all the h22's love having a nice Quaife or something... even my h23 does it a bit
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Somebody mentioned it already. Its torque steer. And whoever said that they had or drove an integra and it never happening, is because integras and civics are torqueless.
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Re: unequal power delivery to front wheels

thanks for the replies. i feel a bit better about it, but the amount of torque steer is excessive imo. i'm 38 and have driven plenty of cars, all types. i'm wondering if the motor mounts or something are wearing allowing excess movement somehow. all good though. thanks again. i'm still considering it...
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Re: unequal power delivery to front wheels

Let go of the motor mounts, thats just not possible... Your car would be jiggling 24/7, or have something similar to "death wobble", or the engine would buck and bob when u engage the clutch from a stop. Move on to front end inspection (usually pretty cheap) and or alignment, then it should be solved or at least diagnosed...
I payed 60 bucks for my last front end inspection.
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