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Need help ASAP! HUGE Clutch Issues!

Got an 01 blue lude 98k miles 2 weeks ago. The clutch was recently changed by the previous owner, but the slave and master cylnder were not, and it wasn't bled. 1 week ago at the bank, i held the clutch down for a long time, and when i took off, it would just rev up and go a little. I live in a small town, no big deal, don't do that again. Got it towed home, sat for an hour, started like nothing happened when it sat.
I go to a big town, with a huge amount of red lights. It's rather difficult and pain in the butt to go neutral brake first clutch go, so i would take it easy on it still yet, but held it down. I tried to get to where i was going with the RPM's going way up and only moving a little, started smelling burnt, it has sat for 2 days and still won't move. The clutch won't grab any gears, and the shifter acts as if the clutch is always pressed in, itll shift without it being held down.
Now, before everyone screams the clutch the clutch is burned up!!!!111!! It was changed less than 6 months ago, with the exception of master, slave, and it wasn't bled. It's stranded an hour and a half away from me, I have a buddy who owes me 500 free labor in my car at his shop 45 minutes away from where the car is at, even farther from me.
Or, I can get it towed home, and pay 150-300 dollars for the clutch labor to someone to install a new clutch. I have to make a decision in about 5 hours what I want done with the car. Is the clutch gone, and I need to order a whole new system, or what? I know NOTHING about cars, and i mean NOTHING, so I need basic words to help please.

sorry it was so long, just in a bad jam

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Re: Need help ASAP! HUGE Clutch Issues!

sounds like you answered your own question and need a new master and slave cylinder, cause if the clutch as already been changed, but yet the master and slave haven't, then BAM, that's most likely your issue
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Re: Need help ASAP! HUGE Clutch Issues!

The mechanic is saying the clutch is burnt, hasn't been pulled yet though. Would changing those two cylinders make the car run?
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The mechanic is saying the clutch is burnt, hasn't been pulled yet though. Would changing those two cylinders make the car run?
they help you switch gears. Damn, if the clutch has been changed previously and already needs a new one, sounds like someone doesn't know how to drive a standard very well
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Well, what it would do was, if I held the pedal down too long (say at red lights) the car would just rev up and go really slow at high rpms, so i drove this way for like 2 miles id say, then it just quit going.
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Re: Need help ASAP! HUGE Clutch Issues!

Sounds like the clutch wasn't disengaging. You need a new clutch slave cylinder and clutch master cylinder whenever the clutch is changed. Also need to make sure the throwout bearing is changed when the clutch is.


It's possible you burned the clutch if it was dragging. Not bleeding the system after a new clutch is installed will cause quick wear and eventually an issue - as you've already found out, the hard way.
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don't forget to change the rear main seal since you're changing the clutch
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Re: Need help ASAP! HUGE Clutch Issues!

Hard way sucks.
Dude who sold the car flat out told me master and slave weren't changed, but to put it in neutral at redlights and id be fine until i got it done. unfortunatly, I didn't realise i'd burn my clutch up if i didn't do that..
So now I got a 2 week old lude, with 500 due in sales tax by the 14th, plus a clutch, tow, and labor. And I can't get a loan because apparently im a "temporary" at my job, yet work 40+ hours a week.
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Re: Need help ASAP! HUGE Clutch Issues!

honestly it sounds like a bad pressure plate spring. was the clutch disk and pressure plate changed or just the disk?

but yea id change everything just to be safe.
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Re: Need help ASAP! HUGE Clutch Issues!

Hows the stiffness of the clutch pedal? Any play before you actually feel the pressure or you feel the pressure right away you press it?

I'm asking cause the old clutch master cylinder might just need some adjusting. I've heard that when your clutch starts to worn out it will increase the play on the pedal before feeling the pressure and people tends to adjust their clutch pedal to reduce that play/gap.

If the clutch master had been adjusted to compensate the worn out clutch, then it means that the push rod is adjusted too far in the cylinder. And honda has a specific pedal adjustment for a brand new clutch.

If I'm right, the clutch master is adjusted too far in and the clutch is always engaged because you got a new solid clutch. That might be the reason why your car was barely moving, gear wasn't grabbing, and the rpm was just rising.

That's something you want to check first before spending money. If you still have pressure then your clutch master and slave are still working no need to change them.

If you still get the same results then whoever installed the clutch doesn't know what he was doing or the clutch is defective.


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with the exception of master, slave, and it wasn't bled.
If it wasn't bled, then you won't have any pressure at all and there's no way to put the shifter into gear.
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Pressure plate is new.
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Re: Need help ASAP! HUGE Clutch Issues!

Little note; You are never supposed to adjust the clutch master cylinder. Hydraulic system, even on a worn clutch, if you were to adjust the damper in- the clutch pedal would be closer to the floor and the car would show signs of it not disengaging within a few miles. The car would fall flat on it's face.

I'm talking from first hand experience on this one....
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