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Confused with cam seals

So I need to replace my cam seals (2) (the ones on the timing belt side), I believe they are leaking. I also need to replace my cam cap seal (1) (The one behind the vtec solenoid) I've read going OEM with the seals is a no no due to them being cheap so I've been pointed towards these seals on ebay made by Blox racing
BLOX RACING CAM SHAFT SEAL INTEGRA GSR PRELUDE CRX CIVIC B18C H22 B16A B16 /BLUE | eBay

Could I use these for both my cam seals and cam cap seal? I've tried researching but I seem to only find people using them for the cam cap seal. Also I've read different things on changing the cam seals (timing belt side) Do I NEED to take off my timing belt to change the seal?
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Re: Confused with cam seals

That is the cap seal for behind the Vtec Solenoid. I used Fel-Pro cam seals for the timing belt side. I have the Blox cam seal on mine in black. So far so good. Yes you have to remove the timing belt to do the cam seals, as you have to remove the cam gears.
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Re: Confused with cam seals

Okay is fel-pro going good so far? I plan on getting some other gaskets from them also. And okay cool. Man that sucks lol is there a write on on how to change the cam seals>?
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Re: Confused with cam seals

No, you cannot use the cam cap seal on the timingbelt side as the seals are a different type. The cam cap seal is solid, while the cam seals on the timing belt side have a hole in the middle for the camshaft. And yes you will have to remove the tining belt to change them.

Cam seals on the timingbelt side #38 below

91213-PR3-004 OIL SEAL (29X43X8) (ARAI) $5.44

and the cam cap seal is #8 below (this is the one people say to replace with aftermarket, but if you cover the outside mating surface of it with Hondabond, it will not leak)


12513-P30-000 RUBBER, CYLINDER HEAD SEAL $5.24
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Re: Confused with cam seals

Well I have about 120 miles on them, lol. As far as changing the seals, I loosened the cam gear bolts before removing the belt.
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Re: Confused with cam seals

Thank you for the picture helped a ton. Do you have the link for the fel pro cam seal? I can' t seem to find it. Also best place to get valve cover gasket set? Honda autozone or felpro?
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Re: Confused with cam seals

Buy Felpro Camshaft Front Seal Set TCS 45987 at Advance Auto Parts

If the link doesn't work, go to Advance Auto Parts: Car, Engine, Batteries, Brakes, Replacement, Performance & Accessories and search for Item# TCS45987.

I bought the valve cover gasket from them too, I think it was Beck/Arnley. It may have been a Fel-Pro too, I can't remember.
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Re: Confused with cam seals

Yeah the fel pro is 42 bucks there kinda expensive but oh well. Thanks for the link!
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Re: Confused with cam seals

I went with OEM. They're not "cheap", just original and about 15 years old; well, mine were 18.

Rosko and a few other companies also make that cam cap with a triple seal. Make sure you put some Hondabond or RTV on it regardless of which brand you choose.
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Re: Confused with cam seals

$42 for the cap seal or cam seals? They're $7.99 for the pair, and then throw the P20 20% off code on it.
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Re: Confused with cam seals

I would ask also when is the last time you had your timing belt, water pump, tensioner replaced if your going in to do the cam seals. If your already in that deep and its been 90K I'd say say go all the way.

Credit goes to schmitty for sharing this link, it actually details with pics the changing of the cam seals along with the rest of the timing job.

Hope it helps you on that part if you decide to just go with the seals.

DIY: Official 5th Gen Timing Belt Job Procedure! (by JLUDE 03/11/08) - Honda Prelude Forum : Honda Prelude Forums
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Re: Confused with cam seals

42 for the valve cover gasket, mines orginal so Im gonna replace it. The previous owner gave me all these papers with shop work done to them, water pump was changed I think the tensior I must check again, also the timing belt which was about a 2 years ago.
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