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NOS on an H22?

One of my buddys was tellin' me that if I wanted a cheap HP boost, I could install NOS for around $300 and use a 75 shot and it would be the best thing boost wise for the money. Is he talkin out his rear or would it actually be a good idea?
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Re: NOS on an H22?

sounds about right man believe it or not as far as 300$ that parts a little shady but the best bang for the buck i would deffinitly go with nos as this candidate. i mean u still have to buy the kit, me personally kinda like the zex wet nitrous kit, then u need to install it (save money doing it your self) and obviously the tune and u still need a tune-able ecu to make this possible and also the conversion harness for your system. plenty other thing to consider as when modifying anything to gain hp but yes its the "cheaper" method of quick easy hp gains
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Re: NOS on an H22?

I also have a rebuilt automatic transmission. Would installing nitrous and a wet kit put more wear on my transmission?
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Re: NOS on an H22?

yes it will.

you will need a good header and exhaust to let it breathe better 3 inch .. read up on it theres an entire section for this
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Re: NOS on an H22?

IMO you can easily ruin your engine with nitrous...
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Re: NOS on an H22?

^^You can easily ruin your motor with alot of things.

But op, I wouldnt do it with your auto trans.
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Re: NOS on an H22?

there kind is no wise cheap tricks to make your car go fast... just dumb a assload of money into it and get some gains or just leave it to stock
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Re: NOS on an H22?

No2 can be used very successfully. But it takes proper tuning, internals that can handle it and someone who knows how to set it up. But like type-t said if you want more power, "there kind is no wise cheap tricks to make your car go fast...."

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Re: NOS on an H22?

You can always go eBay turbo kit if you want to go fast for cheap. IMO If you really want your car to go fast and still be reliable you mind as well spend the extra money and get something that you know is gonna last and go fast. Your gonna need to spend money to go get where you wanna go. Besides you have VTEC!!!!!!!!
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Re: NOS on an H22?

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yes it will.

you will need a good header and exhaust to let it breathe better 3 inch .. read up on it theres an entire section for this
I read the How To Install Nitrous Safely thread on PO: http://www.preludepower.com/forums/s...d.php?t=219661

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IMO you can easily ruin your engine with nitrous...
I was told and have read that you can run 50-75 shots of n2o without doing harm to the motor if you know what you're doing. H22's are strong enough to handle that power without any mods. Getting gauges and learning to read them and see how the engine is handling the power would be vital to prolonging the life of the engine. That's definitely something I would learn how to do to make sure I don't bust my motor.

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I was just asking if the auto trans would hold up with the boost but I figured it wouldn't I plan on saving up and slowly aquiring parts for my 5 speed swap. Hopefully going to do it next summer. I just was looking for answers and information for future reference.

I read that you need to retard your ignition by 2 degrees or so for every 50 n2o. I would probably do 3 degrees for 75 but if I were to start out, I would probably just run a 50-55 shot, and only change the ignition by 2 degrees. The installation doesn't seem too complicated and everything I've read relating to wet kits is very reassuring, since they all have said it's the best way to "insure" your motor as it produces a more even distribution of fuel and oxygen to each cylinder where as a dry kit can feed an uneven mix.
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Re: NOS on an H22?

just do the 5 spd swap for that that's the cheapest, easiest and safest way to gain 50hp to the wheels
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That's definitely something I would learn how to do to make sure I don't bust my motor.
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Re: NOS on an H22?

Nos is something u will want to build a bit around man...
Just consider the initial shock on stock internals, especially valve springs and retainers, not to mention bottom end of the engine and the poor automatic tensioner...
Thats alot of extra power in a bottle, it will create heat, and another $300-450 will get u a dope radiator to help cope with more heat, and be on top of your oil game.
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just do the 5 spd swap for that that's the cheapest, easiest and safest way to gain 50hp to the wheels
This x5,000! The auto trans can't handle the HP of the H22 stock, let alone adding anything else to it. Don't wait to rebuild it, just do the swap now and get it over with. Without a manual, you're just an Accord coupe with different headlights.
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Re: NOS on an H22?

i might do naawwwsss. ive been thinking about it
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This x5,000! The auto trans can't handle the HP of the H22 stock, let alone adding anything else to it. Don't wait to rebuild it, just do the swap now and get it over with. Without a manual, you're just an Accord coupe with different headlights.
I agree with ups Over 9000%, but I must say this. To your first statement: How does the stock auto transmission not handle the power of it's own H22? Of course it doesn't put down the kind of power that 5spds do, but "not handle" it? I don't agree with that at all, sir. To your second statement, it's a lot easier said than done. I see that you've done it, and props to you, but not everyone has the money and/or resources. Everyone says "Do a swap!" and its quite obvious why. But not everyone realizes how much money and work it is.To your third statement, It is still 5x as much fun as an accord coupe. How do I know? The last time I was looking at cars to replace my 00 civic ex that was totalled in a hit and run, I test drove many an Accord coupe. Sure they've got decent power and nice amenities, but I always wanted a Prelude, and so when I drove the one I purchased for the first time, I found that it was 5x as fun in all aspects. It had 84K on it...and I couldn't pass it up. Besides, Ludes look a whole lot better too.


To OP: I wouldn't recommend NOS for either transmission, to tell you the truth. Like I was saying to Wargames there, if you've got the money and experience to do the swap, Do it and go from there with power. If not, either save up or do I/H/E and call it a day until you've got the money/resources for a swap. Another alternative would be to find another red lude that's a 5spd, and go from there.
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Re: NOS on an H22?

I agree with upsluder. Just do the 5spd swap for the boost in power.

But for all these ppl saying that they wouldnt do nitrous on a stock bottom end. Ppl do turbo builds on stock bottom ends all the time and nobody hardly ever says anything bout it.

With proper tuning and the right parts, nitrous builds can be just as, if not more effective(and safe) than boost builds on stock block.

If you have nitrous are you gonna spray every time you drive your car?(if its your dd). No, because you have to pay to refill your bottle.

If you have a turbo, are you gonna hit boost every time you drive? Most likely you will more often than not.


So please, unless youve actually spent time(more than a hour or two) researching nitrous builds, dont speak about what you dont know about.
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I agree with upsluder. Just do the 5spd swap for the boost in power.

But for all these ppl saying that they wouldnt do nitrous on a stock bottom end. Ppl do turbo builds on stock bottom ends all the time and nobody hardly ever says anything bout it.

With proper tuning and the right parts, nitrous builds can be just as, if not more effective(and safe) than boost builds on stock block.

If you have nitrous are you gonna spray every time you drive your car?(if its your dd). No, because you have to pay to refill your bottle.

If you have a turbo, are you gonna hit boost every time you drive? Most likely you will more often than not.


So please, unless youve actually spent time(more than a hour or two) researching nitrous builds, dont speak about what you dont know about.
I was speaking purely from my 2 cents, and that was all. Nitrous isn't my thing. Can we add the bolded statement to the terms and conditions in bold of joining the forum???
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^^Oh I wasnt talking directly to you or anybody else. I was just making a statement because I see ppl bash on nitrous all the time and it kinda annoys me. That definitely wasnt directed towards you. Sry if it seemed like it was
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No it didn't...I was clarifying my statement to make sure people didn't think it was a fact thing, just an opinion thing.
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Unless its going to be a drag racing car only i don't recommend running Nitrous Oxide on that engine. Unless you want to constantly rebuild the motor. F&F makes it look cool but its anything but.
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Re: NOS on an H22?

Like I said earlier, n2o is a future endeavour, not any time soon. I'm saving up for a new exhaust setup and a Vibrant header. Then I'm going to save for a swap/coilovers. Intake is kind of a waste of money in my opinion, as you spend a good amount of money on some lame AEM V2 and get hardly any gains, if at all. I plan on getting a Type-S intake sometime later on but it's not important nor will it give any huge gains. Upgrading my exhaust and header won't put more wear on my trans. I'm pretty sure an intake would, as it adds air and is supposed to create a more combustable mixture in the cylinder. Which would put more pressure on my rebuilt trans. But again, I want to get new exhaust, header, then save for a swap and coilovers. Then n2o would be a consideration as well as a new intake manifold, intake, and even Brian Crower cams.
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Forget all those little power adders and just do the 5spd swap!! U can get a ton of more power just by doing the swap. If you need any help on what parts to get or have any questions, just check out my build thread. Im buying all the parts for it right now
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Re: NOS on an H22?

Like I said, the trans swap is my second priority, as well as coilovers. I'm going to get a new exhaust setup and then start work on getting parts for the swap.
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