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Mugen Replicas

So I'm looking around for some Mugen Sides and Rears and see that VIS Racing has some decent prices on their replicas. Anyone have these? What you think?
Or are there better replica companies out there than vis racing?
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Re: Mugen Replicas

I have the mugen rep side on my car right now and really like them. But like any replica parts you might have some fitmint issues that a body shop can fix. Also i don't like the way that they install on alot of them you have to drill into the door sill under the door.

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Re: Mugen Replicas

Everyone's cars that I have seen in person the Vis rep's are the best. MY friend has some Siebon stuff and he said that his side skirts were a real pain in the ass and still don't look right. I couldn't tell but when it's your car you notice every single imperfection.
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Re: Mugen Replicas

I have the VIS Techno R rears and sides, which are the Mugen replicas. I think they fit well, I got them reasonably priced, and I think they look great.
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Heard nothing but good things from VIS. Seibon's CF hood and trunk kits don't even fit properly.
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Re: Mugen Replicas

thanks for the input everyone i appreciate it! i think imma go ahead with the VIS real soon.


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I have the VIS Techno R rears and sides, which are the Mugen replicas. I think they fit well, I got them reasonably priced, and I think they look great.

how are the sides installed?
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Re: Mugen Replicas

Body shop drilled into the door sill to put screws in and one under the car. The screws can not be seen when door is closed only when it is open.
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Seibon's CF hood and trunk kits don't even fit properly.
dont talk about things you know nothing about, mines fit PERFECT

vis coatings arent that good, some people have had coatings peeling off after a year of use

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dont talk about things you know nothing about, mines fit PERFECT

vis coatings arent that good, some people have had coatings peeling off after a year of use

And that doesn't happen with Seibon? Did you know where it's made? Just wondering..
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Heard nothing but good things from VIS. Seibon's CF hood and trunk kits don't even fit properly.

You more than likely got that mixed up. Seibon has a better chance of fitting "closer" to stock than VIS does- but still some adjusting in either case.

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dont talk about things you know nothing about, mines fit PERFECT

vis coatings arent that good, some people have had coatings peeling off after a year of use

If you were to make a "cf fitment thread" and actually post a photo of your hood, I bet I could find a few fitment flaws in it.



On the topic of vis vs seibon products... I recall reading that they are now owned by the same company - not sure if that's true or not, just what i read. So if anyone can confirm, that'd be great.


All jelcoats/clearcoats that come on CF products will peal and/or fade/yellow. Just because Seibon says they put a special clearcoat on doesn't mean a thing. When purchasing a cf product, it's always best to have the gel/clearcoat buffed or wetsanded and a few fresh coats put on.



As for fitment, it really depends on the mold the parts came from. Years ago the fitment was great on the majority of aftermarket replacement/replica parts. With VIS and Seibon, the quality and fitment is still pretty decent - but you will still have a little adjusting no matter what. Just depends on how picky you are.
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If you were to make a "cf fitment thread" and actually post a photo of your hood, I bet I could find a few fitment flaws in it.
same as stock
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thanks for the input everyone i appreciate it! i think imma go ahead with the VIS real soon.





how are the sides installed?
The way others have stated they get installed: screws drilled into the door sill. I also used the factory side skirt mounting points under the car. I did all the fitment myself, and it came out great. Had to dremel a few small areas to get the fitment right though.
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I didn't ask how it fit, I said to post a photo.


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I didn't ask how it fit, I said to post a photo.




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Re: Mugen Replicas

its without those hood's front rubber seals, and I didnt feel the need to adjust it again 3rd time so there is ~2mm bigger cap between right fender (left in the picture) and the hood, "close enough"
and maybe 1-2mm more forward, but thats really adjusting thing, no fitment issue. but you can "balance" it still someday if you want, doesnt bother me





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its without those hood's front rubber seals, and I didnt feel the need to adjust it again 3rd time so there is ~2mm bigger cap between right fender (left in the picture) and the hood, "close enough"
and maybe 1-2mm more forward, but thats really adjusting thing, no fitmen issue. but you can "balance" it still someday if you want, doesnt bother me



Well, you picked out the fitment flaws for me takes away my fun.


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Well, you picked out the fitment flaws
IMO theyre not flaws, you can make everything straight as hell its about you how long you have patience to work with it... like I said mines not "show car" so it doesnt bother me that much if theres some +1mm caps somewhere
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IMO theyre not flaws, you can make everything straight as hell its about you how long you have patience to work with it... like I said mines not "show car" so it doesnt bother me that much if theres some +1mm caps somewhere
I hear ya there... it took me 4 or more tries to get my VIS trunk to sit straight.

There's really no telling unless you go through the extra time to make it fit perfect. Some people are picky about it, most are not - which is why i'm so detail oriented when it comes to things like this.


Some things i've noticed with carbon fiber parts (unless someone was fortunate enough to get one from a good mold)

You need to file out the holes on the hinges in order to adjust the hood/trunk over to the left/right or forward/backwards.

The hoods sometimes bow upward around the center of the fenders.

Front of the hood around the headlights bow out too far but only noticeable when it is adjusted right.

When adjusting the latch, in some cases the corners near the top of the headlights look to be aiming downwards vs following the flow of the front.


and a little side note- always watch the corners of any cf hood where it meets the rubber at the windshield.... common place to crack if the rubber isn't moved


Just some things i've seen and heard people complain about when expecting a factory fitment. Rather have the information out and available so there are no surprises and high expectations.
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lol thanks guys for answering my question. this whole cf discussion has me entertained.
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Here are some old pictures of my sides and rear valences. They are not the best angles, but it was all I could find:



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Re: Mugen Replicas

I personally never had great results with Seibon. I can't say for every single product obviously but I've had the hood and it didn't fit flush, could of been my fault but I've also had the CF CSL trunk for the E46 M3 and that had to be altered to fit. (extra washers to fix the flushness)
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