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Timing Belt

My SH runs fine and I can't see any leaks so mechanically it seems pretty sound. I keep reading that the Timing Belt is a must to change. I have 135k on my SH, should I start gathering resources to get this done? Why must the thermo be changed at the same time? What mileage do you recommend to change the Timing Belt?

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What mileage do you recommend to change the Timing Belt?
every 50-60k miles or 8-10 years

water pump doesnt last much more either
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Re: Timing Belt

If your at 135k I would definitely replace the timing belt if you dont have proof its been changed before. While your at it also replace the tensioner. Either with a h23 tensioner or this one KAIZENSPEED | H22 Timing Tensioner.

I would personally go with the kaizenspeed one. I replaced my timing belt and all that other stuff but didnt replace the tensioner. Dumb decision because the tensioner went bad and chewed my timing belt up. Thankfully it didnt bend any valves.
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If your at 135k I would definitely replace the timing belt if you dont have proof its been changed before. While your at it also replace the tensioner. Either with a h23 tensioner or this one KAIZENSPEED | H22 Timing Tensioner.

I would personally go with the kaizenspeed one. I replaced my timing belt and all that other stuff but didnt replace the tensioner. Dumb decision because the tensioner went bad and chewed my timing belt up. Thankfully it didnt bend any valves.
Same thing happened to me and I did replace my tensioner but I used an OEM replacement one.. I should've got the kaizenspeed.

Also the thermostat is worth changing because you usually drain a lot of the coolant to change the water pump and after I changed the fluid my thermostat went wonky. Its not expensive and it's a 5 minute job when the coolant is already drained.
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Re: Timing Belt

It is quite a job.

Is it near impossible with the engine still in the bay?
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Is it near impossible with the engine still in the bay?
of course not
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Re: Timing Belt

Oh wow Ive never seen this tensioner, maybe ill go back to this one considering I have the H23 manual one lol.
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Re: Timing Belt

Mine has is now at 150 and I'm going to be changing mine soon, i bought the belts I needed about 3 weeks ago and my first attempt I broke a 17mm socket. I am resuming the work this Saturday/Sunday.
Basically since you are going to be down there anyways, I would change the hydraulic tensioner, all the belts, and the water pump.
Because this is a major component to the engine, and so much can be damage if the timing belt goes bad, I would go with OEM parts just to stay on the safe side.
Since you will need to have access to the cover and by doing so you need to take off your Crankshaft pulley, Go to O'reilly and rent on of their "honda crankshaft tool" its just a security deposit and you have 48 hours to hang on to it. To make it easier on yourself (and not take out the engine completely) loosen up the driver-side motor mounts and just jack it down slightly. Oh and it would be MUCH easier for you if you go to a machanic that would be willing to take out the pulley nut and just hand torque it in for you, so when you go home you can take it out easier.
I hope my tid-bit help and good luck.
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Be careful with hand tightening it. THe guy who had My lude before me had the timing belt changed and the guy but the bolt in by hand and didn't use an impact. He was driving it and the bolt loosened and the crankshaft puller wiggled loosed and broke both belts and stripped the splines off the pulley. He had to get a brandnew pulley and belts becuase of it.
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Re: Timing Belt

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every 50-60k miles or 8-10 years

water pump doesnt last much more either
For 5th gens, the factory schedule is 90-105k. The 60k limit is for 2d and early 3d gens. And yes, it's cheap insurance to replace the water pump while everything's apart. The whole thing is enough of a PIA that it's one of the few jobs I take somewhere else, rather than doing it myself. Also not a job to skimp on, since breaking or slipping the belt can result in some major damage.
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For 5th gens, the factory schedule is 90-105k.
Id rather do it sooner than later 80-100k KM's
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Re: Timing Belt

If you have the resources, that's certainly possible. It's an involved DIY job, though, and in the States, depending on where you are, a $700 job (give or take) to farm out.
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Re: Timing Belt

i have a 98 base model w/ 188k, I think the timing belt is in need of change, just wondering if i were to take it to a shop to have it changed would they have to take out the whole engine?...and if they were to take out the whole engine what else should i have them look at or change other than timing belt. i haven't had any serious engine problems so i have had all the same parts since 120k. and i would like to kill as many birds with one stone as i can while the engine is out of the car anything, anything at all, also curious how to start a thread i am new to the site and can't seem to figure it out.
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Re: Timing Belt

If that's 188k mi on the original belt, I'm surprised it's still there...but yes, change it! It doesn't require pulling the engine out, but they do have to take alot of things off to get in there. A typical "timing belt change" includes changing all the belts (timing belt, balancer shaft belt, accessory belts), the tensioner (and it's wise to change to the H23's manual belt tensioner), check the shaft seals, and change the water pump (because it's under all the rest of that stuff -- so it's cheap insurance against doing all that labor again).
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Re: Timing Belt

I just bought my Prelude a few weeks ago. The seller told me that he had put in a new tranny, cat and that the belt had been changed at 110k. Car had 145k when I bought it.

After lifting the car to have the muffler changed, I was able to see that the cat is new, the tranny looks very clean so it seems the guy was telling the truth although I have no receipts to prove anything. Recently I removed the valve cover to paint it and according to a local mechanic, the original belt would have lines (zebra stripes as he called them) on the belt IF it was the original belt so he said he believed it had in fact been changed. Can anybody confrm if the zebra stripe story is true? I am dropping a lot of money tomorrow for new wheels and other upgrades soon and don't want a surprise from the belt. What do you think?

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I've never heard of "zebra stripes" (which doesn't mean it's not true). My experience, including breaking a belt on a 2d gen, is that the belt doesn't always show visual signs of wear or stress, so I'm religious about changing it on time. In this case, I guess it comes down to how much you trust the seller and your mechanic. If you don't or it's going to keep you up at night, change the belt.

Also, you didn't say anything about the water pump. While water pump life is more variable, it's unlikely the pump will last until 200k, when you'd next be doing the belt. That's why when you do one, you normally do the other. For now, if you trust the belt, don't bother going back in to replace the water pump -- losing it doesn't risk instant catastrophe -- but if it dies and you have to replace it, do the belt again at that point to save on labor, even if it's early.
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I guess I better start planning on a tb and pump change. I just dropped a lot of money this morning on new wheels, it would SUCK if my belt went on me.
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My timing belt didn't have "zebra stripes" on it when I removed it. I bought the car with 30k on it, so I doubt it had been changed before I purchased it (in '03).
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