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Old 05-23-2012, 10:17 AM
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What would you be concerned about?

Ok I found a 98 SH I am looking into getting! YAYAYA never thought I would find anything as nice or better than my 01.

So this thing has 66K on the body an 45K on the JDM swap.

Is there anything I should be concerned about? Like as far as the swap... I don't know what to ask or look into as far as that stuff. What would be a legit price etc. Personally after market car parts don't mean jack to me on the value. I would say OEM would be worth more IMO. Just curious what you'd pay. It has no flaws on body or interior. White w black wheels and CF hood and black housing halos.

Are there any issues. I've never had a swap or known anyone personally that has. I don't like how the odometer wont match I guess I am OCD.

Anyways it is another white 5th gen and I REALLY can't wait to get back into a Prelude... given it isn't a 96 or 01 it is a nice looking lude.

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Re: What would you be concerned about?

if its swap-project car I would look the receipts VERY CLOSELY, to see is there all the seals/gaskets/timing things changed during the swap. IF NOT it could soon leak oil from everywhere!
so check receipts (oem seals/gaskets/timing things lasts much more than some noname replacement parts) and is there any oil leaks anywhere

some people doesnt do swaps right, you kinda have to rebuild that engine during the swap and some people just throw it in because its cheaper and theyre lazy (specially if they plan to sell the car afterwards)...

like its kinda critical to new everything because you dont know how many years that "new" engine has sit in a warehouse and when you dont run it, rubber seals dry and go bad - if not replaced they start to leak

and if its properly swapped they have new timing things and clutch there also!

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Re: What would you be concerned about?

Awesome yeah that was another thing I thought of. Just because on my 01 I ended up replacing all the seals as well. Expensive! So I should probably have a REAL mechanic check it out
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Re: What would you be concerned about?

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So I should probably have a REAL mechanic check it out
hmm, well its really hard to say in what condition timing things, valve seals, piston rings etc are without tearing whole engine apart

thats why if sellers receipts doesnt tell there really are new parts, Id walk away

and I mean if he hasnt new EVERYTHING

anyway, when he has done the swap? if recently why someone would do a engine swap and right after that sell the car if everything is ok?

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Re: What would you be concerned about?

Right I am not sure he hasn't gotten back to me. Unless he just wanted the red top? I dunno but I agree it only has 66 original miles so no need to do a swap unless it was by choice.
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Unless he just wanted the red top? I dunno but I agree it only has 66 original miles so no need to do a swap unless it was by choice.
or he destroyed his old engine, sold it, got cheap one back there, didnt rebuild it and now tries to sell it fast to someone that he could get as much his money back as possible

hope that hes honest guy who made the swap properly
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Re: What would you be concerned about?

yeah lol that's what I meant. HAhaha he destroyed it or wanted the "upgrade"
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Re: What would you be concerned about?

Do a leak down test and check all the fluids yourself. Drive the car for 25 or more miles and drive it hard. If you are serious about buying it and have cash in hand they shouldn't have a problem with this unless something is wrong with the car. Have your mechanic check it out.

As far as aftermarket parts are concerned, they do ad value to the car which is why many people selling their Preludes will make a price for the car and a lower price without the after market parts. Really depends on what is on the car.
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Re: What would you be concerned about?

but the main things are:

1) did he do the swap properly
2) why he want to sell the car IF he did the swap properly
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Re: What would you be concerned about?

i got my h22a swapped 5th gen and i've had no problems with leaks or anything from the motor. ive replaced atts seals, oil pan seal, front axles and she drives amazing now. if you are worried get the car fax and see its history.

i was thinking maybe it was in a front end accident since it has a CF hood, new headlights and motor
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As far as aftermarket parts are concerned, they do ad value to the car
not that much what sellers usually add there

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i was thinking maybe it was in a front end accident since it has a CF hood, new headlights and motor
if there was that big accident that you had to change the engine its totaled and that means theres ass load of problems (I mean its DAMN expensive to fix properly then)
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if there was that big accident that you had to change the engine its totaled
maybe it has a salvaged / rebuilt title?
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maybe it has a salvaged / rebuilt title?
doesnt that mean "stay away" then
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not that much what sellers usually add there
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doesnt that mean "stay away" then
You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. If I have original Mugen Valences, bumper, grill, side skirts and Mugen Air Spoiler along with a set of Volks and $1000.00 dollar coils, a new set of S2000 seats and other stuff it doesn't raise the value much? GTFO. Have you priced original Mugen parts that you can't find anymore? It doesn't have to be just Mugen parts and it does depend on a car by car basis but aftermarket parts definitely ad to the value in a lot of cases and even make the car more desirable.

As far as a Salvage title goes, these cars are old and a lot of times insurance companies will assess that the damage exceeds what the car is worth and presto you've got yourself a salvage. Doesn't mean the car was totaled just means that the cars damaged bumper, radiator and paint aren't worth the blue book value or the insurance companies time.

Get your facts straight.

Check the car out with your mechanic and see if it is in order, if so enjoy your new Prelude girl
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You have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
Get your facts straight.
Ive spend like over 10k into my car... and how much I can ask for it if I sell it... well like 3k more what I paid when I bought it.

basicly you always lose when you put money into your car. case closed.

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Re: What would you be concerned about?

Yes basically you loose what you put into it and honestly unless it was some drop dead gorgeous lude I wouldn't be willing to pay much more on after market stuff.

Trust me I just totalled my 01 the salvage thing was my first question to him. My car still ran though the engine was fine. Mine was totalled out because it had suspension damage and suspected frame work. Not positive because once they got to 6500$ in damage they just total lossed it. Sold it and they are fixing it as we speak. Only reason I didn't keep it was because I DONT want a salvage car. I'd rather start all over.

I also asked him who did the swap and why. I want shop info if a shop did it because a lot of times they warranty it. So I am STILL waiting on a reply from him.
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Re: What would you be concerned about?

Tuner parts, or custom stuff will never return the value you spent. Its fact that the only people that are interested in that stuff are other tuners. Besides, most of the time performance parts are a signal that it was run hard and beat on. So true the value goes up, but only to someone that wants those parts.
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Re: What would you be concerned about?

What happened to the BMW

Never hurt to look at the car, always curious how cars have 66k on the body when the first important interval is 60,000. That's like a an abused car could it make it to 80,000 at least? LOL!
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Re: What would you be concerned about?

Noober that's what I'm sayin. Haha of course I want them but doesn't mean I'm going to tell u that... Then there's that driven hard part on top.

Sideswipe I have the bimmer just looking for a lude. I'm starting to lean back towards a 4th gen.

Got the scoop, it threw a Rob because previous owner had it boosted too much. None of the seals were replaced the guy or whoever did it himself as the second engine swap he's done. Umm it has blue led inside (eww) and otherwise it looks sick. He's asking 7500 and I can't justify that. It's also dropped an inch on springs with no camber. The wheels he has on it are dope but not sold with it. Think I'll pass. I paid 8k for my 2001 SH lil over 2 years ago and it had 65k on it and I'd say an 8-9 out of ten overall.
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7500 you could get a shell and drop in a euro-r h22 and prolly coilovers
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Tuner parts, or custom stuff will never return the value you spent. Its fact that the only people that are interested in that stuff are other tuners. Besides, most of the time performance parts are a signal that it was run hard and beat on. So true the value goes up, but only to someone that wants those parts.

I agree but if you're in the market for a Prelude then one with some authentic parts that a super hard to source would be more appealing. Also as with anything your point is pretty standard at best, no one is going to buy something unless they are in the market for it...tuner or anybody else.

Classic case in point being that in her last post she states that seller won't include rims that are currently on the car unless she pays more. No one is just going to give **** away. Wouldn't hurt my feelings if someone didn't want to buy it, next...

You stnad to make more money parting out your aftermarket parts anyways and selling the car stock.
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Re: What would you be concerned about?

When buying a car especially a sports/sporty car like a prelude i'd rather pay more for somthing super clean and untouched then modded to dear jesus, by god knows who and how well its done.
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Re: What would you be concerned about?

Other than what others have said, like get a mechanic to check it out and drive it hard, I have one word for you: CARFAX.
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When buying a car especially a sports/sporty car like a prelude i'd rather pay more for somthing super clean and untouched then modded to dear jesus, by god knows who and how well its done.

THANK YOU!!!

HAHA. No he wont sell the rims with it period! I would pay extra.

Anyways eff this! I wont pay 7500 for a 97 I believe (sorry I have looked at a few)... when I paid 8 for my 01 with 65K 2 years ago in perfect condition.

NEXT! I wish I wouldn't have wrecked my car :'( I am never going to find anything like it.
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Re: What would you be concerned about?

Go back to 4th gen!
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Re: What would you be concerned about?

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Go back to 4th gen!
Think that's what I wanna do now! I cannot find a damn thing :( WI has a few ludes but I am sure they are rust. I would take 5th or 4th if I can find somethin!!

I want my 96 Vtec back. Find me one hehe. 130K miles or less stock please
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Re: What would you be concerned about?

That's a hard task. I jumped on the only original vtec 96 that I've ever seen on CL around me. And it's got a lot of miles and needs seats and paint. But runs a champ. I don't think you're going to find a 96 with that low of miles : / there's a 93 4ws with a bad tranny with only 125k on it for 1500 right now that would be a cool project haha.

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Re: What would you be concerned about?

Yeah I know! I don't know how I found my cars lol. My 96 Vtec I got with 60K on it in 2003 and my 01 SH I got with 65K in 2010. In another post you may have seen that I totalled th 01 in March and after I sold my 96 I saw it on CL a couple weeks ago they totalled it :'(

I haven't seen anything that compares. Of course I did when I owned the cars and now that I am ready to buy there isn't anything. I had the best of both gens IMO.

I still have my leather out of my 4th gen lol
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