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Broken Lever while changing timing belt

hey guys my timing belt gave out on me couple of days ago, im not very experienced in mechanics but im trying to change it myself but I noticed while working on the engine and following a good set of instructions from here I found a lever broken but im not sure what it is. it seems broken to me, is this fixable, swapped or am I screwed?? :S
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Re: Broken Lever while changing timing belt

Like I said in the other thread, where it is broken is part of the water pump. I had the same thing happen to me when changing out all the components. You should be replacing the water pump while you are in there anyways.
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Re: Broken Lever while changing timing belt

Sorry for some reason I wasnt able to see your post on the last thread till I reboot the comp. Ok so so the part that seems broken is part of the water pump or is it part of the balance shaft tensioner? just want to make sure since the timing belt was replaced last year, but it seems at the shop they didnt even bother putting a correct timing belt as it was very very short in diameter thus why im trying to do it myself now. They stated they changed the hydralic tensioner, waterpump and ofcourse the timing belt too
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Re: Broken Lever while changing timing belt

That is actually on the block isnt it? I will look at the old motor from mine today when I get to work. It is where your timing belt tensioner is bolted down to. you could do a manual tension conversion so that you dont even need that bolt there.
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Sorry for some reason I wasnt able to see your post on the last thread till I reboot the comp. Ok so so the part that seems broken is part of the water pump or is it part of the balance shaft tensioner? just want to make sure since the timing belt was replaced last year, but it seems at the shop they didnt even bother putting a correct timing belt as it was very very short in diameter thus why im trying to do it myself now. They stated they changed the hydralic tensioner, waterpump and ofcourse the timing belt too
It is part of the water pump. If you do the manual tensioner conversion, that hole will not be used. If you re-use the hydrolic tensioner parts, you will have to try to break that piece off inside the pulley assembly without damaging the bolt to re-use it, or purchase new ones. Your balance shafts are on either side of the crank (one above and to the left of the crank, and one below the water pump). Make sure when installing the belts you line up the pulleys correctly (crank at TDC w/ flywheel, front balance shaft markings lined up, and you have the rear balance shaft locked).
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Re: Broken Lever while changing timing belt

Glad I'm not the only one thats made this mistake. I sheared that piece off in the exact same place.
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Re: Broken Lever while changing timing belt

My new engine came disassembled with that same problem... lol
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Re: Broken Lever while changing timing belt

Whew! good thing to hear its a fixable or swappable item in the engine I was beginning to worry lol. Im really not sure how it happened, I just removed the covers and saw it sitting like that. How does that even happen? Can I purchase the water pump bracket alone or do I have to buy a new water pump kit again? I read here the hydralic tensioner fails alot, I wouldnt mind switching it to a manual tensioner. Would I to just buy a manual tensior or are there more parts to it? along with that anybody know any instructions floating around so I may follow them.
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Re: Broken Lever while changing timing belt

HOW TO: H22 Auto Tensioner to H23 Manual Tensioner Conversion - Honda Prelude Forum : Honda Prelude Forums

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Whew! good thing to hear its a fixable or swappable item in the engine I was beginning to worry lol. Im really not sure how it happened, I just removed the covers and saw it sitting like that. How does that even happen? Can I purchase the water pump bracket alone or do I have to buy a new water pump kit again? I read here the hydralic tensioner fails alot, I wouldnt mind switching it to a manual tensioner. Would I to just buy a manual tensior or are there more parts to it? along with that anybody know any instructions floating around so I may follow them.
If you do the conversion, you don't use that mount on the water pump. I still wouldn't trust it with a big hole in it. You would have to replace the whole pump. Buy the tensioner kit from importrp.com. Cheapest place for everything you need, minus the belts. Mine was like that when I removed the covers, though I think it may have been my fault. I loosened the pulley bolt with the cover still on, which is what may have cracked it. Or it could have cracked years ago.
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Re: Broken Lever while changing timing belt

thanks for the link on the conversion and the website for the kit too. Yea I wouldnt trust it with that big hole either :S im gonna get the water pump and kit, I already bought the belt from honda so I should be good for when Im off this weekend to work on her. dannng your engine came that way... that sucks lol Im also glad I wasnt the only with this damage, but good thing for all of you, been a great help to restore the lude :) I'll keep you guys in the loop if anything else turns out next time I work on her
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