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Hey guys! This is my first post as I've been lurking trying to soak up some info and I think I've been doing alright considering on Tuesday I didn't know what H22 meant. I am a new prelude owner ('00 base) and I got the car for 2.75k in near perfect condition from a 65+ year old man. I am also 10)% new to modifying anything under the engine and frankly, my mechanics skills go as far as changing tires, alternators, starters, and head gaskets. But more to the point, I want to clean the car, Completely. The engine, heads, engine bay and all. I want everything under the hood to look immaculate (or as close to it as possible) I want to paint the car either Electric blue, metallic black or a dark gunmetal color. either combo will have wheels like this
I'd like your opinion on what color goes best with this
and a list of mods I plan on making include cold air intake, new headers, turbo kit, exhaust system, strut/sway bars, lighter flywheel and brake kits. I want to stay away from electronics if possible because I know nothing about them or tuning a car. As far as aesthetics go, I wanted to make the block match the body color, and a CF hood (MAYBE a CF trunk) and a CF lip. When I say lip, I mean the thin little piece that adds onto the existing bumper not a whole front bumper. I'm not big on the major ricer look . Now this is pretty much it except for fog lights, new dash, speaker system and prelude door sills. My plan was to either wait until I had all of this + whatever tools I needed to do the things I could do myself and the money to pay a professional if I had to. but I was wondering, in which order would I get all these things done?? I don't want to make one mod and have it get in the way of another. I also had one question referring to tires. given the option between 18" and 20" rims, the 20 inch looks better with a lower profile tire, but does this have a negative effect on the ride comfort/performance of the vehicle? If anyone could help me in any way it'd be greatly appreciated!
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I want to stay away from electronics if possible because I know nothing about them or tuning a car.
then you cant do like NOTHING to your engine

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the 20 inch looks better with a lower profile tire


yep, looks A W E S O M E!!!!


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Re: In what order do you modify a car ?

#1- No one does 20's. These aren't escalades or yukons. Its a honda. Max you should go is 18's.


#2- The extent of your mechanical skills is ONLY a head gasket?!?! That's a VERY involved and complex job, that's def not a job for beginners, that's for sure.

#3- Do alotttttttt of research before you buy a single part. If you want to turbo eventually, there's no point in buying an intake, header, or exhaust because they'll all be replaced by different components.
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then you cant do like NOTHING to your engine
When i say electronics i mean like ecu's and engine management systems and chips and extra gauges... that kind of stuff. I'll do what i have to but nothing more.

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#1- No one does 20's. These aren't escalades or yukons. Its a honda. Max you should go is 18's.

#3- Do alotttttttt of research before you buy a single part. If you want to turbo eventually, there's no point in buying an intake, header, or exhaust because they'll all be replaced by different components.
I'm good with just 18's. So are you saying that turbo should be the first mod? or are you saying it would make buying an intake, hear, and exhaust impossible?
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Swear to God Man people who think that Shi#$@# looks good should have a facepalm tattoo'd to their Face!

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^^^^^ lol that is not a good car .. they should have burned it pos rx8 ..
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I wouldn't have considered that a good car. ZING!

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So are you saying that turbo should be the first mod? or are you saying it would make buying an intake, hear, and exhaust impossible?
Not necessarily. What he is saying is that if you get intake, header, exhaust right now then decide to go turbo in the future you will end up having to replace all of those because the turbo will replace the header along with air intake etc. As stated before, research, research, and research some more before you buy something especially when it comes to the engine just so you don't spend money twice on a unnecessary part. If turbo seems like too much, just stick to intake headers exhaust and what you stated before. going turbo will definitely mean you will have to mess with the ECU and gauges and much more.
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If turbo seems like too much, just stick to intake headers exhaust and what you stated before. going turbo will definitely mean you will have to mess with the ECU and gauges and much more.
Ah, well can you recommend a good source to learn about ECU's and gauges? and can i just get a professional to install and program it rather than doing it myself? Also, what do you do about exhaust after turbo has been installed? I'll read up on turbo kits while waiting for a response.

If it's worth the trouble then i'll definitely end up doing it. If not then i'll probably just tinker with smaller aesthetic stuff.
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When i say electronics i mean like ecu's and engine management systems and chips and extra gauges... that kind of stuff. I'll do what i have to but nothing more.



I'm good with just 18's. So are you saying that turbo should be the first mod? or are you saying it would make buying an intake, hear, and exhaust impossible?


Impossible?? Hell no.

A waste of about $1300?? Absolutelyy!!!
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I wouldn't have considered that a good car. ZING!

Otherwise, KILL IT WITH FIRE
Ask and Ye shall receive... poor RX8 tho.


back to topic:... leave your car alone and research and digest more info. the more you know the happier you will be with your prelude.
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The RX8 is able to move? It's gotta have a million turbos plus an ls1 and a tow truck in front of it to have enough torque to rotate those wheels.

At speed, I bet those wheels create a vacuum effect and suck in small children.
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When i say electronics i mean like ecu's and engine management systems and chips and extra gauges... that kind of stuff. I'll do what i have to but nothing more.
yep, then you CANNOT do anything to your engine

if youre thinking to leave your ecu to stock, its pretty useless to do anything engine-wise
baucause ECU CONTROLS your engine.

not many people can do ecu things, thats why there are dyno places which tune your car/ecu

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The RX8 is able to move? It's gotta have a million turbos plus an ls1 and a tow truck in front of it to have enough torque to rotate those wheels.

At speed, I bet those wheels create a vacuum effect and suck in small children.
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For the op, here is an idea on a budget build that you can handle.
It's forced induction, it is wonderful, this is genesis.

First you gotta pick which model you want, then get some ebay intercooler tubing for the intake, then you'll be eating gtrs in no time.

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1) really?

2) That photo is shopped horribly over the POS that is normally in that picture.

3) When you go turbo, you need a different exhaust setup etc according to the turbo/build you have. Why waste the money on an exhaust now when you will need a downpipe, different size exhaust piping etc (unless you went custom exhaust the first time around and avoided buying a pre-made all together)

4) Also - you use an entirely different header setup since it goes directly into the turbo.

5) If you plan to turbo on a stock block you're pretty limited on the amount of boost you can "safely" run. I believe safe is 6psi but max is 9psi. You need to really think about how much money you intend to spend. Turbo builds can be VERY expensive. You will need a tune, so a piggy back or new ecu with a stand alone will be required. Knowing that - take into consideration if you will be able to pass inspection with a different ecu. If your state requires an obd2 plug in test or smog - you won't pass with anything more than a piggyback (E-manage for example)

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If you plan to turbo on a stock block you're pretty limited on the amount of boost you can "safely" run. I believe safe is 6psi but max is 9psi. You need to really think about how much money you intend to spend. Turbo builds can be VERY expensive.
Thanks everyone, for your answer. I've pretty much decided that a turbo kit is not worth the trouble. I had no idea that they were this complicated! So if i was to exclude the turbo from the list of mods, can i complete the rest successfully with less trouble? also IN which order would you install them?? I plan on taking the engine out for cleaning & cleaning the engine bay but should i add mods then or just put it back in and throw on everything else? that's the confusing part to me.
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Heres some advice. If you pull the motor, have it rebuilt with oem parts. Put it back in, then start doing some research.
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Heres some advice. If you pull the motor, have it rebuilt with oem parts. Put it back in, then start doing some research.
Is it a better idea to buy the pieces that are worn and need replaced? Or should I just look for a rebuild kit and replace everything just to be safe.
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Get a master rebuild kit. They give you everything you will need. Honestly though pulling an engine is a chore, and if you have a dd car, you can make your prelude a project. Usually easier to source a used motor with 60k.
Depends on you. Go through the resource guide and see for yourself of it's too much.
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^^^ This, avoid modifying something that's broken.
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I researched a bit and found out that there's a lot of math when rebuilding an engine. Unfortunately, math is my weakest point possible, and i don't think i'd be too successful with this. so i've decided that i'm going to buy a second motor. This way i have one working fine in the lude while building the secondary. so if anything goes wrong, my car still works. I'm also considering buying aftermarket parts rather than OEM for the secondary. I'll do more research on which brands make the best of what and installment and such. I'm a little short on money right now but i get $1400 of play money every month. that said, i'll slowly accumulate everything i need (or everything i know of that i'll need) and make another post of my engine build.

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Re: In what order do you modify a car ?

this thread will help you:

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also if you really want to learn, why not take an automotive course or get someone to help you?
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I researched a bit and found out that there's alot of math when rebuilding an engine. Unfortunately, math is my weakest point possible, and i don't think i'd be too successful with this. so i've decided that i'm going to buy a second motor. This way i have one working fine in the lude while building the secondary. so if anything goes wrong, my car still works. I'm also considering buying aftermarket parts rather than OEM for the secondary. I'll do more research on which brands make the best of what and installment and such. I'm a little short on money right now but i get $1400 of play money every month. that said, i'll slowly accumulate everything i need (or everything i know of that i'll need) and make another post of my engine build.

Where you located at? I have an 01 engine for sale in colorado! Runs good too
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Re: In what order do you modify a car ?

probably shouldn't touch your car when it comes to moding it and probably do all the maintenance and stuff that needs replacing.
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