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rear suspension problems

Just recently i started hearing a clunk from the rear suspension last night. So this morning i jacked up the rear of the lude and just started investigating. I first grabbed the wheel at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock and wiggled back and forth, and no obvious movement or anything. Then i grabbed the wheel at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock and started wiggling and felt a little movement and the clunk i was hearing. So i further investigated by taking the wheels off and checking for the obvious wear of ball joints, end links, and sway bar bushings, and they seem in good condition with no abnormal wear or cracks. I then put the wheels back on and pulled the wheels up and down and heard a different clunk, which seemed to be coming from the upper control arm and/or shocks and springs. Now before i start throwing parts at the lude, can anyone confirm if this problem is with the wheel bearings or something else with the video i provided? Thanks in advance and rep to anyone who helps a luder out. Sorry for the crappy video, It was taken with my droid.

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Re: rear suspension problems

If you have a torque wrench, I'd check to make sure ALL the bolts related to the suspension are tightened to spec; UCA, LCA, lateral links, swaybar endlinks, knuckle, top hats, etc etc...
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Re: rear suspension problems

Yeah, I tightened everything down to spec yesterday afternoon. Its wierd how the rear tires move side to side when theirs no tie rods or anything really that controls the side to side movement. The only thing i can think of is the wheel bearing. Is their any other way i can check for a faulty wheel bearing?
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Re: rear suspension problems

You'd be able to HEAR if the wheel bearing is going bad; it'd be making a rythmic "wob-wob" for every rotation of the wheel, especially while turning.
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Re: rear suspension problems

they don't always have that tell tail wobble sound. my accord had 2 bad wheel bearings and they didn't make any noise.

if the wheel has any play in the you did in the first part of the video, and you don't notice any other joints moving when you move the wheel, it's likely the wheel bearing.

from the video, it looks and sounds like the beginning of a wheel bearing going bad. however, the other movement you make with the wheel (up and down), that one is hard to tell. possibly your upper ball joint. it helps to have a friend help you out. move the wheel in that same fashion and you look/feel/listen for the sound. place your hand on different components and you can feel for the clunk sometimes. also, it's easier to compress with the wheel off and pushing up on the hub assembly.
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they don't always have that tell tail wobble sound. my accord had 2 bad wheel bearings and they didn't make any noise.

if the wheel has any play in the you did in the first part of the video, and you don't notice any other joints moving when you move the wheel, it's likely the wheel bearing.

from the video, it looks and sounds like the beginning of a wheel bearing going bad. however, the other movement you make with the wheel (up and down), that one is hard to tell. possibly your upper ball joint. it helps to have a friend help you out. move the wheel in that same fashion and you look/feel/listen for the sound. place your hand on different components and you can feel for the clunk sometimes. also, it's easier to compress with the wheel off and pushing up on the hub assembly.

Thanks for the tips..My friend is coming over tomorow morning to help me diagnose this issue. I will take another video tomorow and try to get a better angle so that the sound will be more noticable.
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Re: rear suspension problems

Dunno the actual name of it, but check that the rubber spring plate is still up there. Mine was destroyed when I got my lude and everytime is hit a bump that spring would slam into the trunk of the car. From the video I couldn't hear it too well tho, so I could be completely wrong
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Dunno the actual name of it, but check that the rubber spring plate is still up there. Mine was destroyed when I got my lude and everytime is hit a bump that spring would slam into the trunk of the car. From the video I couldn't hear it too well tho, so I could be completely wrong
Your deffinatly onto something because as im driving, it sounds like the knock is in my trunk, which is why i was looking at the upper control arm along with everything else. Thanks . I'll take apart my springs and struts again and look at the rubber isolator in between the strut mount and spring..
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Re: rear suspension problems

Could be wasted effort tho, but let me know what u find...do u have stock struts and springs, or aftermarket
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Mine had some worn out crap and I think that's y it ate up the rubber, try looking up through the spring with a flashlight before u tear it down. You might be able to see it without removing everything, but I'm not sure.
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Re: rear suspension problems

What about the rear toe arms, did 5th gens have them?
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5gens do have rear toe, but doubt this is the problem as it makes noise lifting up and down too
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Re: rear suspension problems

I had this same problem with my 92 prelude, It turned out that the upper control arm bushings were bad
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Re: rear suspension problems

Thanks guys for all the comments. Gonna be checking things out today and keep you guys updated with vids. Rep spread all around..
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I had this same problem with my 92 prelude, It turned out that the upper control arm bushings were bad
My 94 makes a horrible ruckus like this too.
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Re: rear suspension problems

Did you ever figure out what the problem was?
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Re: rear suspension problems

had the knock when i bought the car.. bought kyb with skunk2 springs.. still knocks. my answer to it all is that i ignore it nobody likes how my car rides anyways but id like to see what you figured out
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Re: rear suspension problems

I am still chaseing this phantom clunk. I have gotten it ever since i put the new suspension in the car. It seems to only do it on really roungh road and when it is colder outside.

I have checked all the bolts and I have checked for any movement. It just disappears and reappears.
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Search on "shock knock" and see if that matches your problem...this is a well-known annoyance on 5th gens.
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Re: rear suspension problems

There was a tsb about it. A bushing compresses over time so there's play.
Search for 'clunk sound in trunk are' in the honda tech tsb.
Mine does it too. I just turn the radio up and avoid bumps til I can get around to fixing it.
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I've got the same on my 5th genafter struts done. Do you have a link for the tsb or is it on here?
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