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97 Lude Type SH: Skunk2 intake manifold

Whats the deal with the intake manifold from Skunk2 not fitting in the Type SH???? Has anybody swapped one in?? What trimming needs to be done?? I need all the help and info on this I can get.

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Re: 97 Lude Type SH: Skunk2 intake manifold

you have to say goodbye your atts if you want one

short version:
skunk2 IM doesnt have iabs so your ecu goes crazy and your ecu controls atts - your atts wont work
you can always get there another ecu but then again your atts is just dead weight since you need SH ecu to control it

you could try to get ported blacktrax IM instead, but then again you cannot really get your car tuned since you have
to keep SH ecu there and those Apexis V-AFC II or others arent that good way to tune your engine

thats why you cannot really build SH's

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Re: 97 Lude Type SH: Skunk2 intake manifold

? It will fit you just need to convert to obd1

Which is better for you in the long run tuning wise
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? It will fit you just need to convert to obd1

Which is better for you in the long run tuning wise
its not SH then anymore, its just base with dead atts adding weight
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Re: 97 Lude Type SH: Skunk2 intake manifold

True!!! Best bet euro r mani or h22a swap with the obd1 conversion, only if you wanna go fast!
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True!!! Best bet euro r mani or h22a swap with the obd1 conversion, only if you wanna go fast!
IMs doesnt even give THAT much power..

personally I think its stupid to pay double from euro r when its not even that much better than others

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Re: 97 Lude Type SH: Skunk2 intake manifold

Who's talking about power, better air/fuel ratio = healthy engine, better gas milage :D
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Re: 97 Lude Type SH: Skunk2 intake manifold

I wanna go faaaaast
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Re: 97 Lude Type SH: Skunk2 intake manifold

So does the type-s version have the atts?
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Re: 97 Lude Type SH: Skunk2 intake manifold

If you buy the complete swap yes
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Re: 97 Lude Type SH: Skunk2 intake manifold

SiR Spec have LSD
Type S have ATTS
otherwise, same engines
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Re: 97 Lude Type SH: Skunk2 intake manifold

Good bang for the buck solution if you're going NA... I swapped in an H22a, got the skunk2 68mm tb and port matched the stock intake. It was easy... of course you need grinding tools and a decent compressor. Either way im happy with the results. And you can definitely tune an ATTS equipped Lude.. with the obd1 conversion you'll lose ATTS but you can find the weight savings somewhere else. Just takes a bit of creativity.
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Re: 97 Lude Type SH: Skunk2 intake manifold

If you can go obd1 in your state and still pass inspection - go for it.

Yes, your ecu won't like the fact that you'll be missing some sensors, but it won't effect the ATTS from operating. You're basically loosing the IAC, EGR and something else.. which could throw you into limp mode.

Honestly, it's not worth they money unless you're willing to ditch he ATTS and go obd1.

Otherwise go Euro-R.
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Good bang for the buck solution if you're going NA... I swapped in an H22a, got the skunk2 68mm tb and port matched the stock intake. It was easy... of course you need grinding tools and a decent compressor. Either way im happy with the results.
many people say that 68tb is too big..? so your experiences are just all positive?
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Re: 97 Lude Type SH: Skunk2 intake manifold

i dont think its as much as the iabv as it is the egr valve missing on the skunk2 mani that will throw a code.
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many people say that 68tb is too big..? so your experiences are just all positive?
I've had no problems.
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I've had no problems.
I just got Blox 66mm TB and I thought that I change them in dyno to see is there any effects what so ever
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I just got Blox 66mm TB and I thought that I change them in dyno to see is there any effects what so ever
TB gains on N/a motors are negligible imo. The 10-15hp claims from skunk2 are bs. I gained approximately 4hp from the tb/portmatch. Did pick up some midrange torque though.
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TB gains on N/a motors are negligible imo. The 10-15hp claims from skunk2 are bs. I gained approximately 4hp from the tb/portmatch. Did pick up some midrange torque though.
any effect on low range?
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any effect on low range?
Not much if any. Maybe a few foot/pounds but you can pull that deviation just from race fuel or air temperature. Too close to the margin of error to give reliable results. Bottom line, tb on na builds are a nice touch but not enough to get big gains
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Not much if any. Maybe a few foot/pounds but you can pull that deviation just from race fuel or air temperature. Too close to the margin of error to give reliable results. Bottom line, tb on na builds are a nice touch but not enough to get big gains
Is that skunk2 IM for sale ?

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Re: 97 Lude Type SH: Skunk2 intake manifold

do you guys know if having a skunk 2 intake manifold and throttle body deletes the fast idle thermo valve? thats what i have in my SH, but i bought it like that, i found out it has a base tranny in it now, so its not an SH anymore lol. However i read atts slips at about 260 or something horsepower, so if you plan on getting above that itd be wise to through a different tranny in
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do you guys know if having a skunk 2 intake manifold and throttle body deletes the fast idle thermo valve? thats what i have in my SH, but i bought it like that, i found out it has a base tranny in it now, so its not an SH anymore lol. However i read atts slips at about 260 or something horsepower, so if you plan on getting above that itd be wise to through a different tranny in
Yes, it will delete the FITV. just loop the coolant lines direectly into the block.
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