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Old 11-06-2011, 09:30 PM
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Lude Brothers, I desperately call for advice

Hey guys, this is merlin again :D

ugh... I hope this won't be too long of a story, but I would like to share what's going on 1-by-1 with videos accompanying them.

1.


First bought the car during the end of August,
Got a cheap private mechanic figure what the job was:
Here's the following things I did
got a new front windshield, manual tranmission flush change,
Replaced front left axle shaft due to half-torn out rubber,
Replaced 2 sway bars,
Replaced serpentine drive belt and alternator belt
(for some reason, the previous owner put in thinner belts..?)
Later on
The next day, got a sound coming in..


Literally, I can't even do anything about it..

2. Cheap mechanic suggested the sound was coming from a bad ps-pump,
so I managed to get my first ps pump, finding out it didn't fit.
(mine's a 97, and the other one was like a 99-01?)

Got the second one in a rush... and I still get the same sound...

Here are some posts that I'm adding to show what's going on.

1. Sometimes, the Lude is totally normal as the following video.

But for some reason, when I actually make turns in an unknown angle,
I get the sound from the first video uploaded.

2. So I was hoping to catch the sound later in the evening.
And then I got the mysterious slow start issue going on.




3. Hoping to get rid of the ps-pump sound that happens spontaneously,
learned how to do the ps-fluid flush, got some OEM fluid+Lucas oil conditioner, sounded fine for at least half the day, came back to ground zero again....................................

Later at 3am, studying at iHop and getting ready to go home,
I meet the same issue from no.2, constantly putting the keys on ignition,
maybe for the longest time, trying to squeeze out the car
And,
I get a yellow ENGINE CHECK light.
Totally freaking out, I did the OBDII test today and got the P1359 error
(CKP/TDC sensor connector disconnection?)
One of my mechanic friends in GA recommended resetting the whole battery,
which I did (took me 1 hour ...being a car noob)

Mildly testing out the car for a short 2-mile drive, I get the same sound
again... here's the last vid.






Basically, 2~3 issues
1.
PS-pump sound or? leaking ps-reservoir and bad hose?
I did see the ps-reservoir area being damp, and some scratches on hose.

2. Hoping the slow start issue will be gone after my own reinforcement of the battery wires (Don't know.. I did feel less power, less gas mileage...)

3. Is this car way over my head? The car body has about 220,000 miles
and the engine has 160,000, and has a salvaged title.

DID I MAKE THE WORST CHOICE CHOOSING A BAD PRELUDE?....



I'm sharing some pics as well..
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Re: Lude Brothers, I desperately call for advice

Remove the power steering belt and see if the sound comes back or not
(i don't advise of driving without it for more than a day)

How is the tension on your alternator belt? If one of the belts is too tight than that could result in that sound.

If the tension is good on both belts - and the sound still exists after removing the power steering belt, with the car off reach down to the crank pulley and see if you have play on it. That could have come loose as well but that's a rare occurrence. If all of the above check out - I can think of the alternator being messed up from a previously installed belt being too tight - but you'll be able to hear that with the ps belt off to confirm if it is.

Last possible thing it could be is your tensioner starting to go or your timing belt rubbing the cover - which would lead to a timing belt job and new auto tensioner.


As for the starting issue - try your main relay first. Searching on the forum here you'll find the symptoms for that and how to replace it. If it is not the main relay it is possibly your ignition switch - there was a major recall for that on 97/98/99 preludes.
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Re: Lude Brothers, I desperately call for advice

Wing8806, thank you for such a knowledgable reply :D
I'm glad I'm understanding where you were pointing out to be potential areas of trouble.

I hope I'll get all the issues set up by the end of November. Thanks
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Re: Lude Brothers, I desperately call for advice

Check the harmonic balance bolt. And the balance. Oh and you need.a new lude lol.
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Take the ps belt off tell me if you still hear the same noice....
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Re: Lude Brothers, I desperately call for advice

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Remove the power steering belt and see if the sound comes back or not
(i don't advise of driving without it for more than a day)

How is the tension on your alternator belt? If one of the belts is too tight than that could result in that sound.

If the tension is good on both belts - and the sound still exists after removing the power steering belt, with the car off reach down to the crank pulley and see if you have play on it. That could have come loose as well but that's a rare occurrence. If all of the above check out - I can think of the alternator being messed up from a previously installed belt being too tight - but you'll be able to hear that with the ps belt off to confirm if it is.

Last possible thing it could be is your tensioner starting to go or your timing belt rubbing the cover - which would lead to a timing belt job and new auto tensioner.


As for the starting issue - try your main relay first. Searching on the forum here you'll find the symptoms for that and how to replace it. If it is not the main relay it is possibly your ignition switch - there was a major recall for that on 97/98/99 preludes.
we learned about those belts the hardway eh josh?
powder coated alt bracket, painted alternator = major PITA to adjust.
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we learned about those belts the hardway eh josh?
powder coated alt bracket, painted alternator = major PITA to adjust.
Don't remind me -__- Mine were easy but yours were such a PITA even after we remembered about that other bolt lol
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Re: Lude Brothers, I desperately call for advice

Hey guys, thank you so much for your feedback..

Well, I got referred to this 20-yr experience work mechanic guy and he totally blasted my expectations on what was going on!


1. The sound must be coming from the AC part, which basically is unplugged and useless, and the belt running throught should be making all the sh@#y noise.

2. I noticed my radiator didn't have fan to it... Is this serious?
He was insisting I should get a fan to my radiator ASAP.

Looking for feedback from u guys! Thanks :D
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So you're saying your AC has been partially removed but you still have the compressor installed?

Is the cooler in front of the radiator still and do you have the condenser under the passenger headlight still?

Do you even have the AC lines in the bay still? I don't see them in the videos.


Which fan is missing - driver side or passenger side? (take a picture if you can)

Yes, the bearing COULD be shot in the compressor - But without checking everything out how can anyone let alone your mechanic be sure?
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No the AC compressor is there, but there's no wires attached to it,
and the pulley is still connected to it.

The mechanic was suggesting that all the whining and spurting sounds
were coming from the useless AC.

And yes, I know there's this cooler pipe running through the front of the radiator. I really don't know about the AC lines :(


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So you're saying your AC has been partially removed but you still have the compressor installed?

Is the cooler in front of the radiator still and do you have the condenser under the passenger headlight still?

Do you even have the AC lines in the bay still? I don't see them in the videos.


Which fan is missing - driver side or passenger side? (take a picture if you can)

Yes, the bearing COULD be shot in the compressor - But without checking everything out how can anyone let alone your mechanic be sure?
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No the AC compressor is there, but there's no wires attached to it,
and the pulley is still connected to it.

The mechanic was suggesting that all the whining and spurting sounds
were coming from the useless AC.

And yes, I know there's this cooler pipe running through the front of the radiator. I really don't know about the AC lines :(
The one that's nearly the same size of the radiator but in front of it is for the AC - the smaller one closest to the bottom is for the power steering.

The AC lines would be running from the compressor over top your header and down the passenger side of the bay. As well as one small silver line running from under the passenger side headlight (coming from the condenser) and runs down the passenger side of the bay as well.


Not sure how long you've been without AC, but if you don't mind running without it and have no intentions to replace everything - you can just remove the compressor altogether and use a smaller belt between the alternator and crank.
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Re: Lude Brothers, I desperately call for advice

Exactly. I believe that's what my mechanic was referring to in the first place.

It was a windy day today, and I got some real horrible sounds coming
from my belts again... Really AWFUL screeching...

The other thing was I noticed my battery light and parking lights came on
simultaneoulsy for a minute and then just disappeared...?




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The one that's nearly the same size of the radiator but in front of it is for the AC - the smaller one closest to the bottom is for the power steering.

The AC lines would be running from the compressor over top your header and down the passenger side of the bay. As well as one small silver line running from under the passenger side headlight (coming from the condenser) and runs down the passenger side of the bay as well.


Not sure how long you've been without AC, but if you don't mind running without it and have no intentions to replace everything - you can just remove the compressor altogether and use a smaller belt between the alternator and crank.
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Re: Lude Brothers, I desperately call for advice

Could be an issue with the alternator if it's causing the battery light to come on. You can run without A/C, shouldn't be any issues if you don't mind being a little warm.
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