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I was wondering what else I could do to upgrade my suspension a little, not coilovers and struts. Is there anything else that would help a bit?
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strut bar. cheap and effective.
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Re: Suspension

front/rear strut bar
rear sway bar
front traction bar
coil overs
poly bushings
custom endlinks

The list goes on. Research research research!

coilovers have built in shocks.... we don't necessarily have struts on Preludes since its double wishbone

shocks and springs are another option or shocks and adjustable springs (fake coilovers) or whatever that horrible setup is (imo at least)

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Re: Suspension

Probably the first question you want to ask is "upgrade it to do what?" Sway bars, springs and shocks will have the greatest effect. Chassis reinforcement (strut bars and underbody braces), and bushings or end links will help the existing suspension do its job better, but it's a much smaller effect.
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we don't necessarily have struts on Preludes since its double wishbone
a shock and spring together in one assembly is a strut.
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Re: Suspension

Best suspension mod to be done to a car is sway bars. Big big big as you can get rear bar and a medium sized bar in the front, front OEM bar you can keep installed. OEMs like to keep the rear bar small to cause understeer, which is safer for the inexperienced drivers.

This will reduce body roll, having the rear stiffer in the front will cause the car to have more oversteer, which can be a handful if you don't know what you are doing. If you start to get too sideways, point the wheel where you want to go and floor it. As long as you are not at some crazy angle it should pull out.

Stiffening the rear bar will also cause the front end to stick in corner exit, so you can get on the gas sooner in the corner with less wheel spin.

Struts support the weight of the car, shocks do not.
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a shock and spring together in one assembly is a strut.
huh, always thought it was based on how it's mounted, i stand corrected.
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a shock and spring together in one assembly is a strut.
At risk of going OT, not exactly. A strut is a coaxial shock/spring assembly that also functions as the suspension's upper arm. That's why on a strut suspension, the damper (shock absorber) is an insert that fits into a pretty beefy housing that attaches to the hub. With a strut, the connection to the hub is flexible, but the connection to the unibody is fixed, which limits how much the wheel can move as the suspension compresses and extends. That design is also why moving the top of a strut around affects the suspension geometry -- slotting the strut mounting holes is a pretty popular modification to get more negative camber on MacPherson strut suspensions. You'll find that setup on all four corners of a 1st gen Prelude, or the back end (where it's properly called a Chapman strut) of a 2d gen.

Compare that with what's on all 3d, 4th, and 5th gens -- the spring fits over the shock seats on a flange near the bottom of the shock body, but the bottom of the shock is carried in a fork that in turn attaches flexibly to the lower arm, which connects the hub to the unibody. The upper arm is a completely separate component that also connects the top of the knuckle (which is part of the hub) to the unibody. Because all those connections are flexible, the double-wishbone or multi-link suspension allows a much greater range of wheel movement, especially in camber, as the suspension compresses and extends.

Bottom line: all struts are spring/shock assemblies, but not all spring/shock assemblies are struts.
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Re: Suspension

I will say it again, A strut supports the vehicle's weight, and shock does not.

In the case of the double wishbone the upper wishbone is used as location arm not a load arm. The load of the car is transferred from the strut top to the spring/strut assembly and down to the lower control arm.

In a car with a shock you can eliminated the shock and the car would still be supported.


Back on topic, get some sway bar.
progress makes a good rear bar, with 3 adjustable setting to tune the roll stiffness. I have heard of them braking the endlinks, but you can make your own. Get some high quality heim joints and make them. I have a local bearing shop so it is easy for me to find strong joints.
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If your cars has been lowered, before making repairs , I would suggest that you return it to stock ride height because bumper damage from the road and incorrect impact points in an accident as well as bondo enhancements are a unfortunate way of life for lowered cars. Its always important to look at the cause and not just the effect when making repairs so that you won't have to experience any further automotive drama in the future.
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