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Is there an easy way to adjust the timing?

I can't get my lude to pass emissions and i've spent almost every dime i have trying to get it to run right. The state has discounted hundreds of dollars i've spent so they won't give me an exemption. I've had them look at it, i've had the dealer look at it, i've had an independent shop look at it as well.
The best guess is the timing is off a tooth one way or another. This is after everything else has been replaced/tested/adjusted.
Is there an easy way to adjust the timing without having to pull the engine out? Maybe just loosen something to move the belt a tooth or two? I don't have $600 to take it to a shop and my garage is tiny, it barely fits the car. What pisses me off is i can't sell the car since it won't pass emissions and its only missing NOx by .3 parts per million. The standard is 1.5 and i come in at 1.8.
I've already tried the octane boost trick and all that crap.
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Re: Is there an easy way to adjust the timing?

this is how i did it...it might not be. the right way but it worked and it samr lots of time and labor... 1. Remove valve cover
2. loosen one of the cam shafts (carefully)
3. grab the end without the pulley and hold it up at about 45 degrees (that would loosen your belt) and jump you timing the way you need it.
4. put your cam shaft back in place...
5.put your valve cover back and done...
again i kinda just figure it out as i went... DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!!"!.if you **** up its on you..
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Re: Is there an easy way to adjust the timing?

I assume you've also tried retarding the ignition as well... Make sure the cat is hot when you do the testing too. Don't let it sit parked while you wait.
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Re: Is there an easy way to adjust the timing?

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I assume you've also tried retarding the ignition as well... Make sure the cat is hot when you do the testing too. Don't let it sit parked while you wait.
I don't think i can change that with a stock ECU? I don't know. Honestly i'm a ****hair away from torching it and see'ing what insurance will give me for it.
The most straightforward diagnoses i've heard now that i've spent all my money up is that the intake or exhaust timing is off a tooth. But nobody can tell which way without my paying more money.
I've spent almost $1000 doing every other little thing that people thought was the issue. And that doesn't include the $ i spent on a rental car while it was in the shop.
Its a great car except for this one issue.
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Re: Is there an easy way to adjust the timing?

get a timing light n test it urself sometimes mechanics dnt make sure the car is warmed up and dnt jump the service port to ensure the vehicle dsnt self adjust the timing. If u r so sure the vehicle tests fine then u will have to adjust the belt totally doable with limited tools.
1. take off the valve cover (DO NOT LOOSEN ANYTHING INSIDE!)
2.drop the acc. belt and pull the spark plugs
3. turn the motor over so that the number 1 pist. is tdc with the crank bolt 17mm till the cam pully has the word "up" up and the two alignment tabs aligned with the head. look at the crank and see if its at tdc
4. if these cpl things dnt line up we got a problem brah.
5. dnt get into it any further. (PUT IT BACK TOGETHER!) or cover it all up if u dnt need it.
6. go to ur dealership get an oil oriface o-ring, the cam seals, and some gasket maker. these will cost a few bucks and ensure ur sealed up and this oriface has alot to do with oil pressure which ensures clean running engine, egr,choke,idle,etc.
7. turn over the engine till the cams r lined up (DNT SKIP THIS!) then loosen the cam bolts in reverse order of installation order srry u got to find that. in a few steps if u really want to ensure quality.
8.lift up the cam from the other side of the block so u can slip off the belt
9. check the right side of the belt ridges between the cams it shld be mirror of the left side. if not, buddy, ya needs a new belt. bad thing is the tensioner may b the cause but thats more work
10.turn the crank till its tdc to num. 1 cyl and the cams r tdc put the belt on put sealant on the outside caps where the bolts r dnt get too liberal and torq dem bi***s on dwn loosen the crank bolt and retorq to 181lbs
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Re: Is there an easy way to adjust the timing?

there ya go do this for a cple bucks and if the timing was it then u will fix it. like i said the tensioner may be bad that involves alot more work not money but work. the other thing is the oil oriface, that right cld be a problem if the o-ring is bad. then the egr itself will not work and u will run dirtier than ur supposed to
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Re: Is there an easy way to adjust the timing?

Thanks for the advice. That sounds a lot harder than loosening a pulley and moving a belt a tooth one way or another. Maybe i'll just go the fire route....or sell it as a parts car or something.
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