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Old 09-23-2011, 05:40 AM
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5th gen Brake upgrade

So, my rear brake pads are nearly done, and I was looking to do a brake upgrade. I think next season Im gonna join eludeauthority on the autocross circuit.. well, at least for a few races. So I would like an upgrade, doesnt have to be crazy though.

I read this thread on using Acura Legend Calipers/Rotors/Pads
Sus: Twin Piston Calipers into 5th Gen Prelude and then this thread was pretty helpful also... Brake System

it doesnt really sound like the Legend dual piston ugrade was super effective, it sounds like the single piston to dual piston upgrade in performance is marginal for the cost. havent found a ton on the NSX piston upgrade, is this more or less effective than the Legend upgrade?

As far as the rotors it sounds like there are a few options: Brembo slotted rotors, PowerSlot, Axxis Metal Masters or Deluxe anyone have any preferences on brand there?

And I haven't heard a bad thing about the Hawk HPS brake pads yet. everyone says they are great and dont kick out a ton of brake dust.
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Re: 5th gen Brake upgrade

For very mild tracking I wouldnt bother upgrading calipers. Im not overly familair with autocross, but I dont think you get that much speed up or run for that long? I do alot of circuit days in both my Preludes and never felt the need to get bigger calipers, running for up to 30 mins at a time. The Legend/NSX upgrades are apparently not worth the hassle.


To get the best out of your brakes:

Maintain your brakes, make sure all the sliders are free (everyone knows how bad Lude calipers get when they are not looked after)
Blank rotors. Honda, EBC etc.. will do the job fine
Hawk HP+ pads or similar
Super DOT 4 brake fluid
Braided hoses.
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Re: 5th gen Brake upgrade

Haha!! Hawk HPS pads not kicking a ton off dust?!?! It's the opposite buddy! They are great pads though, have a great bite, and are not noisy.
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Re: 5th gen Brake upgrade

Yeah I'd also say make sure they are in good condition and maintained to good running order and see if that will do. If not, seems like you've already got a good direction.
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Re: 5th gen Brake upgrade

Those work, but listen what a lot of people don't realize is that even though better friction materials will stop the car better, and cool brakes = better performance and reliability, it isn't the best upgrade.

When you think of brakes you think of pads & rotors. The thing is, what powers them? Imagine a 5 year olds hand grabbing onto a spinning wheel, now imagine putting a rubber glove on it and then the kid grabbing the wheel. Sure it'll help better, but imagine that same kid at 25 grabbing that wheel. Definitely a much stronger grasp. I did the same thing with my bronco (swapped in an F350 booster, little different though...) and I can lock up all 4 tires (which are 3 feet tall...) at 70 miles an hour, on dry pavement.

You want to upgrade the brake booster and master cylinder. A couple of things here though-
I know that acura legend master cylinders DO FIT prelude boosters. What I would do, is swap out the booster itself to a CRV booster, a legend booster, or an acura vigor booster. You gotta watch the size of the booster mount though, but if you are able to swap booster the larger master cylinder will obviously come along with it. If you just swap boosters they almost all use the same mount points but at different angles

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See the distance between the 2 mount holes, but see how the acura is cock-eyed compared to the civics? You don't want your reservoir sideways. Also be aware some master cylinders are nipple in, some are nipple out (civic is nipple in, integra is nipple out - see the pic above with the black piece in the back)

My vote is for a master cylinder and ceramic pads. You won't find a better solution than that.
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