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Engine burning oil. How much is too much?

Hi, I understand it's common/expected that the VTEC in 5th gen's burn oil. I've put 3 bottle's in and only had the car 3 weeks (1500 kms). Can anyone tell me if this is usual or if it sounds like I have a problem ie; piston rings etc. Thanks
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Re: Engine burning oil. How much is too much?

depends on the mileage of the engine. naturally older engines will burn more, and if your car actually does have 917,000 miles like your name suggests, i'd say 3 bottles isn't that bad!!
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depends on the mileage of the engine. naturally older engines will burn more, and if your car actually does have 917,000 miles like your name suggests, i'd say 3 bottles isn't that bad!!
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Yeah, and if it stays in vtec all the time its gonna burn more. But if the back of your car doesnt stay covered in soot then its not burning, its leaking somewhere.
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Yeah, and if it stays in vtec all the time its gonna burn more. But if the back of your car doesnt stay covered in soot then its not burning, its leaking somewhere.
Nope. Soot is typically a sign of a rich burn condition, not oil burning.

How much distance can you travel before adding a quart of oil?
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Re: Engine burning oil. How much is too much?

this happens to me to i put in about 1.5 liters of oil every 15-20 days and i have about 80k on my engine no oil leaks..... i drive around approx.300 miles
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Nope. Soot is typically a sign of a rich burn condition, not oil burning.

How much distance can you travel before adding a quart of oil?
my car is dyno-tuned and the fresh h22 (<25k at install) has always put a good deal of soot on the bumper/back of car... I figured it was not running rich, but just due to high flow exhaust (metal substrate cat doesn't do much, lol...)... sound reasonable??? want a pic???
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Re: Engine burning oil. How much is too much?

Depends on your exhaust. How close it sits to the bumper, how far out it sticks. But if it's tuned, it is probably tuned conservatively, meaning a little rich. Not that it's a bad thing. I'd rather be rich than lean.
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Re: Engine burning oil. How much is too much?

It's got 160,000 kms (not sure in miles) and seems to be getting through a quart every 500 kms.
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Re: Engine burning oil. How much is too much?

probably about normal. mine burns oil and runs rich, the back of my car stays black. i run it hard and it likes it. :)
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Re: Engine burning oil. How much is too much?

Yeah, mine seems happy too but wasn't sure how normal the consumption was. There's no soot on the back and if it's leaking oil it must only be when it's running because my driveway is clean, as is the spot where I park at work. Gonna get my timing belt changed cus don't know if it's been changed so gonna get it looked over then as a precaution. Thanks
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Depends on your exhaust. How close it sits to the bumper, how far out it sticks. But if it's tuned, it is probably tuned conservatively, meaning a little rich. Not that it's a bad thing. I'd rather be rich than lean.
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probably about normal. mine burns oil and runs rich, the back of my car stays black. i run it hard and it likes it. :)
Thanks guys... I took a pic for ya (added a little note for contrast, lol)... It does sit close to the bumper, and bear in mind I haven't washed the thing in 6+ months...

I know my tuner tries not to make them run too rich, but at the same time (as you said) too lean would be a bigger issue... don't want to **** some **** up!

I don't run her hard all the time, but I certainly don't take it easy on her either.



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Re: Engine burning oil. How much is too much?

1L burn for every 5000km driving is generally considered acceptable. Though even a healthy engine will use more than this with excessive time spent on the high cam.
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Re: Engine burning oil. How much is too much?

I burn about two quarts per oil change period (3k miles). I'd like to run extended intervals, but I can't justify it seeing how much my engine burns it.
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Re: Engine burning oil. How much is too much?

alright for you lazy americans who can't figure out km to mi... 160,000km is about 99k miles. gather 'round children, we're gonna have a math lesson. here is a quick and easy way to do km-mi conversion. drop all but the first zero and look at your speedometer and convert. now for the longer explanation for those who stuck around through my first lesson...

now w/o looking at your speedometer. don't worry this is really easy. i promise. keep reading. so lets first look at 160,000 km. drop all but one zero and you get 160. now keep those zeros off to the side, we're gonna need them later. well with out looking at my speedometer i can break that up. 160 can be 100 and 60. the wonderful thing about this equation, is it is commutative. you can break it up to figure it out w/o a calculator. something we should ALL know, 100km is 62mi. in england they do a 0-100 test.. not the 0-60.. ever saw a 0-62 test? i'm sure you have if you've read any car magazine. that means the test was done in a country that uses KM and it was converted so us lazy americans can understand it. so if we know 100km is 62mi, that would mean 10km is 6.2mi. simple math right? move the decimal. we learned that in like 6th grade. i also know myself (american living in a foreign country) 60km is roughly 37mi. but if you didn't know that you can multiply 6 and 6.2 and get 37.2. if you can't do that in your head, you need to go back to school. so we have 100km=62mi and 60km=37mi. add the 2 together and you get 99mi. now put the 3 zeros back that you took away in the first step and you get 99,000 mi.

now for the 500km, drop all but one zero. so we get 50. and 50 is half of something we already know, 100. so if 100km is 62mi. then that would mean 50km is 31mi. add that zero back and 500km is roughly 310 miles.

all you ever need to know is
10km = 6.2mi
50km = 31mi
100km = 62mi

something else we should know from car magazines,
400m (0.4km) is roughly 1/4 mile (.248 miles)
4 quarter miles makes up a mile so 4X400 = 1600m (1.6km) is 1 mile. (.994 mi) oh, wait, you remember our original number? 160km=99mi miles. move the decimal to get 1.6km and you get...... .99mi. what do you know. i love math

now these aren't exact numbers, i know. but that is the closest you get with out going into decimals to much.

burning a quart in only 500km (310 mi) that seems a bit excessive for only 99k miles. i'm about cross the big century mark (100,000 mi) right when i fishing typing this message and i burn maybe a quart ever 2-3k miles (roughly 3-5k km).
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alright for you lazy americans who can't figure out km to mi... 160,000km is about 99k miles. gather 'round children, we're gonna have a math lesson. here is a quick and easy way to do km-mi conversion. drop all but the first zero and look at your speedometer and convert. now for the longer explanation for those who stuck around through my first lesson...

now w/o looking at your speedometer. don't worry this is really easy. i promise. keep reading. so lets first look at 160,000 km. drop all but one zero and you get 160. now keep those zeros off to the side, we're gonna need them later. well with out looking at my speedometer i can break that up. 160 can be 100 and 60. the wonderful thing about this equation, is it is commutative. you can break it up to figure it out w/o a calculator. something we should ALL know, 100km is 62mi. in england they do a 0-100 test.. not the 0-60.. ever saw a 0-62 test? i'm sure you have if you've read any car magazine. that means the test was done in a country that uses KM and it was converted so us lazy americans can understand it. so if we know 100km is 62mi, that would mean 10km is 6.2mi. simple math right? move the decimal. we learned that in like 6th grade. i also know myself (american living in a foreign country) 60km is roughly 37mi. but if you didn't know that you can multiply 6 and 6.2 and get 37.2. if you can't do that in your head, you need to go back to school. so we have 100km=62mi and 60km=37mi. add the 2 together and you get 99mi. now put the 3 zeros back that you took away in the first step and you get 99,000 mi.

now for the 500km, drop all but one zero. so we get 50. and 50 is half of something we already know, 100. so if 100km is 62mi. then that would mean 50km is 31mi. add that zero back and 500km is roughly 310 miles.

all you ever need to know is
10km = 6.2mi
50km = 31mi
100km = 62mi

something else we should know from car magazines,
400m (0.4km) is roughly 1/4 mile (.248 miles)
4 quarter miles makes up a mile so 4X400 = 1600m (1.6km) is 1 mile. (.994 mi)

now these aren't exact numbers, i know. but that is the closest you get with out going into decimals to much.

burning a quart in only 500km (310 mi) that seems a bit excessive for only 99k miles. i'm about cross the big century mark (100,000 mi) right when i fishing typing this message and i burn maybe a quart ever 2-3k miles (roughly 3-5k km).













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Re: Engine burning oil. How much is too much?

what about when i'm going 130km on the autobahn??

lol no, wasn't driving. i'm about to go driving. i'm also not technologically advanced enough to own a phone of that caliber... also i'm to cheep. c'mon, you really think i'd be driving while typing THAT long of a message?
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^ I believe you... I would have died 6+ times trying to text that and drive... of course I have never even bought a cell phone, so maybe with a little practice....

edit: btw my motor only burns .25qt give or take per 3,000 miles... vtec run though a couple gears once every 10 miles or so? I still get that much soot on the bumper (seen above) a couple times per oil change, so it's mostly fuel related...

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