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Old 09-03-2011, 10:13 PM
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5th Gen H22 Turbo Questions

Hey Guys, Once again I got another question.

Right now I got cash flow and fortunately have next to no Expenses, My loan on my 2001 5th Gen Prelude SE will be payed of soon and I really want to drop a Turbo in it !

So I wanted to know from someone that has experience with these kind of things because I dont have a hot clue on the following:

What are the consequences of installing a prelude are (Ups and Downs).
What parts to do I need to prepare for a turbo, and what are the total price of all these parts?
How much of a performance change will I see (Gas/Horsepower, pull)?

Also if their is anything else I should know ( Some turbo stories)

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Re: 5th Gen H22 Turbo Questions

It all depends on how much power/reliability you are going to want out of your setup. You can spend anywhere from $1000 to $5000+ on a turbo setup/build.

The first thing you need to do is figure out a goal for your setup. From there we can answer the questions you have.
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Re: 5th Gen H22 Turbo Questions

Is Their Any Options, Low/Mid/High cost builds? I really dont know were to start my friend.
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Re: 5th Gen H22 Turbo Questions

Well, low cost would be piecing together your own kit with used parts or ebay parts. This isn't the greatest option but I have seen plenty of cars that put down decent numbers with cheap setups. This setup would use a 100% stock internals motor and should be decently safe for about 8lbs of boost depending on your tune. You could always use the stock motor and buy a nice pre-made kit from a reputable manufacturer as well. Although this will be more expensive.

Ive seen very few H22s make much more than 350whp with stock internals, although it can be done. I wouldn't see it as being extremely reliable though.

If you want big Hp and Tourqe you are going to need a nice, and expensive setup. You will definitely need a strong bottom end in that motor of yours. Sleeved block, forged pistons, new rods, etc etc.

But in the end its all about what you want. You can go anywhere from having a crazy drag prelude, to a reliable dd with a little extra balls, to a homemade franken-setup that may or may not be any good.
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Re: 5th Gen H22 Turbo Questions

If I were you I would first think of what you want out of your car and go from there. Because in all honesty there are a whole lot of different setups that you can use.
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Re: 5th Gen H22 Turbo Questions

a well pieced together kit is a good option, but if you dont know exactly what you need to buy i would make sure to buy a new kit with everything there and take it to a reputable shop for installation unless you are mechanically inclined. Thats a nice car, please dont put an ebay turbo charger on it, some of the other components are ok, but not the knockoff $150 turbo from china. I hear they are glued together. Buy a name brand ball bearing turbo i.e. garrett, turbonetics... for lasting results. if its cheap or used its no big deal as long as its not cheaply made and used.
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Re: 5th Gen H22 Turbo Questions

I don't think I will need a drag H22, Just something with a more balls as you said, Something that can increase my Performance and pull.

No franken-setup for me.
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Re: 5th Gen H22 Turbo Questions

Turbo: stop it. I remember when you first joined. What happened to that guy who wa estatic with his SE? If you really want to turbo, read that thread in forced induction. Or practice on a pos car.

The better question is have you driven a car with "balls" before? Be aware of the unwanted attention. Seriously.
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Re: 5th Gen H22 Turbo Questions

yea, that forced induction section has SOOOO MUCHH info its crazy. I've read a lot of it and when I decide to go turbo if I ever do, that will be my best friend for a month lol.

Just read read read, and decide what kind of power you want to make. If you say just a little extra balls/pull, 350 whp is more than plenty for you. If you want it to be reliable, I'd even go lower like 300-320 whp just to play it safe :)
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Re: 5th Gen H22 Turbo Questions

piece together your own turbo kit, and install it yourself too.
For 4000 dollars on parts and 500 on a tune, while having stock internals, you can be near or just about at 300whp and be somewhat reliable, but expect downtime on your 'Lude from time to time to fix stupid **** that pop up every once in a while (oil leaks, exhaust leaks, vacuum leaks, boost leaks to name a few).
My recommendation: if you're doing this on a budget, you will not be as reliable as your current stock car. If you really want to do this, buy a reliable beater car so you have your own transportation while you're fixing your damaged or broken Prelude .. the life of a budgeted Turbo build.
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Re: 5th Gen H22 Turbo Questions

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Turbo: stop it. I remember when you first joined. What happened to that guy who wa estatic with his SE? If you really want to turbo, read that thread in forced induction. Or practice on a pos car.

The better question is have you driven a car with "balls" before? Be aware of the unwanted attention. Seriously.
Sideswipe: Still Estatic, Want to keep my Lude till it cant even move an inch more, Or Honda brings a new version of her back. This Turbo project Is a year down the road, hell maybe even two if something unwanted financially comes up. I still have a loan to pay off if you remember I mentioned when i first joined. I just want to be fully educated and prepared if and when the time comes....

What unwanted attention do you speak of, Please be more specific with me.

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yea, that forced induction section has SOOOO MUCHH info its crazy. I've read a lot of it and when I decide to go turbo if I ever do, that will be my best friend for a month lol.

Just read read read, and decide what kind of power you want to make. If you say just a little extra balls/pull, 350 whp is more than plenty for you. If you want it to be reliable, I'd even go lower like 300-320 whp just to play it safe :)
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Re: 5th Gen H22 Turbo Questions

Unwanted attention: Police, street racers, thieves.

Not sure if you're State-side, but I'm sure you have bandits and tools around your way. Haters are the worse. The amount of unwanted attention triples after you've gotten serious work done. A year or two is definitely enough time to make the decision. The hardest part is the turbo. Getting the parts off a junked diesel truck and rebuilding is the best solution. The low end torque and vtec go hand in hand.
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Re: 5th Gen H22 Turbo Questions

If it's gonna be a while.. Then you have a lot of time to research and look at other people's builds

I wouldn't keep stock internals if you really want balls.. Cause you're gonna wanna keep turning the boost up and you'll eventually push it too hard..

If you are gonna do it right.. Build it to be able to handle more power then you're making.. Don't try to get away with not blowing your engine do a safe build. It'll be a lot more reliable

Tuning is the key to making it run smooth and safe.. I would also have atleast a grand on reserve incase something breaks or u have unexpected repairs..
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here's that link you asked for.

Forced Induction - Honda Prelude Forum

to find it, main page-general tech talk-forced induction.
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Re: 5th Gen H22 Turbo Questions

Start here
So, you wanna go turbo, huh?
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Thanks for the link and thanks again for answering my questions so throughly guys.
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