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i was looking for a long time to get a car, my first one and when i saw this prelude i just had to have it. its a 99 at prelude pretty much stock with the exception of tein lowering springs, 128k on the odometer for $3100. any feedback, idea, comments would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Buying A Fifth Gen.

i figured id hold off posting in the new members area until it was official. i dont think ill be getting a lude after i read this right up(awesome job and very helpful). first off, it is a red 01 with 159,xxx miles, its all stock which i liked and the guy works at a local honda dealer. the guy told me its an sh, but after reading this im not so sure. it is not a manual 5 sp, and the 8th digit is not a 5. super clean interior straight body an im trading it for my 129,xxx mile 03 xterra. so heres what im asking, is there any way this car could be a sh? thanx for yalls help.
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i figured id hold off posting in the new members area until it was official. i dont think ill be getting a lude after i read this right up(awesome job and very helpful). first off, it is a red 01 with 159,xxx miles, its all stock which i liked and the guy works at a local honda dealer. the guy told me its an sh, but after reading this im not so sure. it is not a manual 5 sp, and the 8th digit is not a 5. super clean interior straight body an im trading it for my 129,xxx mile 03 xterra. so heres what im asking, is there any way this car could be a sh? thanx for yalls help.
there is no such thing as an auto prelude sh, they are 5 speed. also, it is not a good idea to buy an auto 5th gen. i'd recommend buying 5 speed, or saving for a 5 speed swap.

if the dealer thinks it is an SH, let them know that it is not, and try to get a better price.
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Re: Buying A Fifth Gen.

Not a dealer trade. It's a private party trade. I dnt mind the auto since my wife will be driving it as well. I didn't think it could be a sh, after reading this. Thanx for the help. Hopefully I will be here with a lude of my own..
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i suggested not getting an auto, not becuase they arent as cool, but because they are not as reliable. it has been proven several times that the auto transmissions have a design flaw and will overheat to the point that the clutch starts to peel and it will slip, in which case it iw often much cheaper to replace the transmission than it is to rebuild it. and the auto, even if rebuilt or swapped, will fail again in the future.

it is much cheaper in the long run to learn to drive a stick and buy one in the beginning.
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didnt know automatics had a clutch..
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i didnt see it from that side. i guess she will have to learn to drive stick and i will have to wait to find a 5 spd. thanx again.
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i suggested not getting an auto, not becuase they arent as cool, but because they are not as reliable. it has been proven several times that the auto transmissions have a design flaw and will overheat to the point that the clutch starts to peel and it will slip, in which case it iw often much cheaper to replace the transmission than it is to rebuild it. and the auto, even if rebuilt or swapped, will fail again in the future.

it is much cheaper in the long run to learn to drive a stick and buy one in the beginning.
Exactly. I wish I had gotten a stick to begin with myself, but I have one now so it's okay. Auto's with this car do have a bit of an "infamous" reputation of failing. Really what that translates to is that you have to be more careful IF you decide to get an auto transmission.

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i didnt see it from that side. i guess she will have to learn to drive stick and i will have to wait to find a 5 spd. thanx again.
If this is a car that you will be sharing with your wife who does not know how to drive 5spd, Im gonna take stab in the dark and say that she's not just sitting there waiting for you to teach her, and might have a problem with you getting a 5speed. However, if you got lucky and got a bit of car gal, congratulations…teach her how to drive stick, and you will have a lot of fun with the Lude. Otherwise, I would first see if she would be okay with it. If not, stick to an auto. They're not that bad if they don't have a bad history and if you take care of them. Im working on selling my auto, but I do still drive, and have been driving it for 3 years(as I just recently got my first stick Lude). Knock on wood, it hasn't given me any problems. Just be scrupulous when looking at and test driving Ludes. Don't turn on the radio…but instead listen for any weird noises, hiccups in the tranny, looseness in the steering wheel, and various other things that are laid out in this Buying Guide. Best of luck to you my friend, and let me know if you need any more help!
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... I bought mine from a little old lady. I looked it up on Kijiji... it's apparently wrth more than I paid for it if I parted it out. But... I really like driving that thing, ain't sure why... :P
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Re: Buying A Fifth Gen.

So im buying a 5h gen this weekend. I DO NOT want a 5-speed I drove one for a year sick of it in traffic around me. point being... im looking into a 97 lude with the automatic/tiptronic tranny how much power can it handle? could i get away with 7lbs of boost ? i know the internals can hold up but the tranny scares me reading all the bad stuff about Automatics on here.
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Really informative, great read. Thank you to WesternPrelude for writing this up. A "Buying a 4th Gen Lude" thread would be sweet.

I'm looking at this right now: http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/4630714840.html

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Really informative, great read. Thank you to WesternPrelude for writing this up. A "Buying a 4th Gen Lude" thread would be sweet.

I'm looking at this right now: 1997 Honda Prelude Black on Black Clean Title Nice Car

I'm totally new, so I have a ton of questions.
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thanks too, i getting a 2000 prelude with 140xxx miles for under $2000
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Hey guys! I have been looking at a 5th gen and am considering buying it. I found this forum and it has made me want to buy the car 10 times more!! Right now I am deployed, so I can't check the car out myself...but I have a friend who works for Honda who said he will go check it out and test drive it for me to make sure it runs and looks as good as the seller states it does. It is a 2000 SH and it has 116k miles on it. From the pictures, it looks brand new and here are some of the items the seller listed on his post:

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• Fresh Engine 2.2L VTECH (H22A)
• New Timing Belt (Complete Kit)
• Included: Pulleys / Tensioners / Balance Belt
• New Water Pump
• New NGK Spark Plugs & Ignition Wires
• Pro Series Performance Intake Manifold
• Cold Air Intake

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• 5 Speed Manual Transmission
• Exedy Performance Clutch Kit
• Light Weight Flywheel

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• Moon Roof
• 5 Spoke 17" Aluminum Wheels
• Performance Lowering Springs (Dropped 2")
• KYB Struts (Front and Rear)
• Rear Upper Aluminum Stabilizer Bar
• Projector Headlight Kit
• Clear Marker Lights
• Rear Spoiler

He is asking $6400 for it...from what I have been reading around the forum, that doesn't seem like a terrible price....but I was just hoping to get some feedback from the experts.

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That sounds like a solid car, BUT I also haven't seen pictures of it or driven it. First and absolutely foremost, make sure that you personally drive the car before you think about buying it. 6400, even for low miles like that, is a little high. I hope that price is OBO. If not, I'd walk away from it unless you really really want it. Even then, be sure not to show the seller that you want that bad, otherwise you might end up paying more. It's not a terrible price, no, but it is on the high side. Do you have pictures of it?
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Right now I am deployed, so I can't check the car out myself...but I have a friend who works for Honda who said he will go check it out and test drive it for me to make sure it runs and looks as good as the seller states it does.
That's the nice thing about having someone else check it out, there is no pressure or impulse to buy.


I'm not an expert on Prelude values, but it sounds like this guy is trying to sell the car for all the money he's put into it.. Nothing on that list shows any reason the price would be that high, besides the engine build.. but...
-How "Fresh" is the engine and why does he want to sell it if it is so "Fresh"? What work was actually done to it?
-What happened to the old one with only 116k miles on the car?
-What problems does it have? I have seen many local scene guys buy cars with "Freshly Built" engine's but really all they are doing is buying someone else's problems that they couldn't figure out and decide to sell it and not tell them, causing them to run into a bunch of engine trouble after the purchase is already made....
-How old and how many miles are on the clutch?
-How many miles are on the suspension?
-Which KYB struts are on the car?
-Is there any kind of camber kit on the car?
-What is tread depth and condition of the tires?
-What is the manufacture year of the tires?
-What is the service history of the brakes?
-How is the alignment?
-Have your buddy take a test drive and see how it shifts, check for gear grinds when shifting. How stiff/soft are the clutch and brake pedals?
-Does the car pull to one side during hard braking with hands off the wheel?
-Does the car drive straight while cruising with your hands off the wheel?

If the car exterior really looks clean and the interior is mint I would try to get him more in the 5k range...Make sure he has the paperwork to show what was done to the engine.. Also have your buddy thoroughly look over the shell of the car for dings/scratches.. Photoshop runs rampant through car sale pics nowadays.
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I'm not an expert on Prelude values, but it sounds like this guy is trying to sell the car for all the money he's put into it.. Nothing on that list shows any reason the price would be that high, besides the engine build.. but... How "Fresh" is the engine and why does he want to sell it if it is so "Fresh"? What work was actually done to it? What happened to the old one with only 116k miles on the car? What problems does it have? I have seen many local scene guys buy cars with "Freshly Built" engine's but really all they are doing is buying someone else's problems that they couldn't figure out and decide to sell it and not tell you.... How old and how many miles are on the clutch? How many miles are on the suspension? Which KYB struts are on the car? Is there any kind of camber kit on the car? What is tread depth and condition of the tires? what is the manufacture year of the tires? If the car exterior really looks clean and the interior is mint I would be more in the 5k range..6k if the engine was fully built and upgraded and has paperwork to show said work was done.. Also have your buddy thoroughly look over the shell of the car for dings/scratches.. Photoshop runs rampant through car sale pics nowadays.
I agree. Usually, the people that are trying to get their money back have a lot more in the car than just a "fresh engine." Also, he sounds like he just flips cars for a living. That would explain the high price....Meaning he might have paid 3 for it. So if you get the carfax(which you need to get) and it's good and you want to buy it, low ball the guy.
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Awesome right up!! I am a recent 2001 Type SH owner. Loving the car so far!
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Re: Buying A Fifth Gen.

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Post pictures when you do buy.
Good Luck and welcome.
Sadly won't be buying that one. Took it for a pre-purchase inspection today and they found oil and coolant leaks. Also the carfax report and the mileage the owner told us it had showed there might have been some ****ery done to the odometer.

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