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i just got in contact with a prelude owner whos car was crashed and hes parting it out near my area. hes willing to sell me the stock air intake for 55 bucks including filter. wanted some input if i should make the trip of about 35 or so mins. i have a AEM Ram intake. any input would help thanks!
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Re: need Input on purchase

just keep your AEM intake
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just keep your AEM intake
X2. Why would u want the stock intake?? Just wondering.
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if you want to buy a new intake then just go type s.
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X2. Why would u want the stock intake?? Just wondering.
just asking. didnt really now if the stock intake wa a better choice
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Re: need Input on purchase

Supposively it is better if you throw in a k&n filter. Someone on here has posted actual dyno info comparing different intakes and I believe the stock intake came out on top.
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Keep your aem. Unless you plan on selling soon and want to get the most for it, then keep the AEM.
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Re: need Input on purchase

I would go with the Type S intake in a otherwise stock like configuration.
Shown below is my write up explaining my feelings on the subject.



When it comes to fuel economy the technology in the stock intake has you covered in a way that no aftermarket intake can. At low rpms, the stock intake acts to speed up the air flow which is best for low speed, fuel efficient operation.It does that by using 2 funnels, or velocity stacks as they are called ,and a valve that cuts off one of the air inputs to the air intake.

1: The air input to the intake goes thru a velocity stack that directs the air into the intake pipe in a orderly and efficient way that acts to speed up the air flow.Also this part of the air intake is in the bumper so the the intake can draw in cool dense air and so that the intake piping can be lengthened to the correct length for air tuning purposes.





2: Next the air goes down two air paths with one of those paths controlled by a valve .At low rpms a valve at the input to the air intake pipe closes one of two air paths to the rest of the intake piping. In the the same way that putting your thumb over a hose causes the water to speed up ,closing one of the intakes two air input passages acts to speed up the air flow which is ideal for efficient low rpm performance.Above around 3900 rpms. the air intake valve opens up given the engine a low resistance to air flow that the engine needs at mid/high rpms.



3: The air then travels thru a section of pipe and then thru another velocity stack to the air filter element.

4: Form the air filter and in the case of the Type S Intake thru another funnel and in the USDM intake just on a plane section of pipe and on to the throttle body.



5: At low rpms the throttle body when at cruising speeds is only partially open, which like the air valve at the entrance to the intake ,acts to speed up air flow in the same way.So in effect the valve at the input to the air filter is like a second throttle valve placed in a location where it can act to speed up the air flow.

Keeping the velocity and momentum of the air up as it goes thru the intake piping helps the engine to produce power in an efficient manner at low rpms which leads to lower fuel cost for the user.

In conclusion having a device that works to provide for what the engine needs be it low or high rpm operation is what the stock intake is good at and its hard to believe why anyone would want to replace it .

Link to purchase a TYPE S intake:

http://www.icbmotorsport.com/prtysdyairin.html

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Re: need Input on purchase

Keep the aem. If you want more filtration, You can purchase the kn equivalent when the time is right. It's working for you right? Were not talking about 50hp difference.
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I would go with the Type S intake in a otherwise stock like configuration.
Shown below is my write up explaining my feelings on the subject.
Sorry to borrow this topic, but is there any sense for getting Type S intake when you have AEM CAI? Ive been thinking about this...is it waste of money?

and does type s intake work without those resonator chambers (which are removed since I have that cai)?
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Re: need Input on purchase

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I would go with the Type S intake in a otherwise stock like configuration.
Shown below is my write up explaining my feelings on the subject.



When it comes to fuel economy the technology in the stock intake has you covered in a way that no aftermarket intake can. At low rpms, the stock intake acts to speed up the air flow which is best for low speed, fuel efficient operation.It does that by using 2 funnels, or velocity stacks as they are called ,and a valve that cuts off one of the air inputs to the air intake.

1: The air input to the intake goes thru a velocity stack that directs the air into the intake pipe in a orderly and efficient way that acts to speed up the air flow.Also this part of the air intake is in the bumper so the the intake can draw in cool dense air and so that the intake piping can be lengthened to the correct length for air tuning purposes.





2: Next the air goes down two air paths with one of those paths controlled by a valve .At low rpms a valve at the input to the air intake pipe closes one of two air paths to the rest of the intake piping. In the the same way that putting your thumb over a hose causes the water to speed up ,closing one of the intakes two air input passages acts to speed up the air flow which is ideal for efficient low rpm performance.Above around 3900 rpms. the air intake valve opens up given the engine a low resistance to air flow that the engine needs at mid/high rpms.



3: The air then travels thru a section of pipe and then thru another velocity stack to the air filter element.

4: Form the air filter and in the case of the Type S Intake thru another funnel and in the USDM intake just on a plane section of pipe and on to the throttle body.



5: At low rpms the throttle body when at cruising speeds is only partially open, which like the air valve at the entrance to the intake ,acts to speed up air flow in the same way.So in effect the valve at the input to the air filter is like a second throttle valve placed in a location where it can act to speed up the air flow.

Keeping the velocity and momentum of the air up as it goes thru the intake piping helps the engine to produce power in an efficient manner at low rpms which leads to lower fuel cost for the user.

In conclusion having a device that works to provide for what the engine needs be it low or high rpm operation is what the stock intake is good at and its hard to believe why anyone would want to replace it .

Link to purchase a TYPE S intake:

JDM Prelude Type S Dynamic Air Intake Kit 220HP BB6 H22A S Spec
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Sorry to borrow this topic, but is there any sense for getting Type S intake when you have AEM CAI? Ive been thinking about this...is it waste of money?

and does type s intake work without those resonator chambers (which are removed since I have that cai)?

The short answer is I don't know.
The long answer is the length of the intake track has something to do with the tunning of the intake. You see if you measured the air pressure where the air goes into the intake you would find that it is under high pressure. Pressure can be thought of as a form of stored energy. Between the input of the air intake and the intake runners their are 4 air chambers as listed below.

1: resonator box
2: air filter box
3: Types S air chamber
4: air box that connects to the intake runners

As the air flows through the intake piping past each of these air chambers ,air pressure drops,theirs a release of energy, and that released energy acts to kick the air in the ass and speed it up as it moves down the pipe the way I understand it.Exactly where the air gets its kick along the route is critical to its proper operation at low and mid rpms so for that reason the length of the intake piping is critical.Of coarse at high rpms none of this matters because the air is moving along with high velocity and all these pressure changes are nothing more then a minor nuisance which is why intake tunning has little effect on high rpm power.

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Yes : Most aftermarket intakes employ what I call Home Depot technology.


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Hahaha!!!^^. That's awesome!
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Short ram is great for bark, but CAI is the way to go. The only real things wrong with Home depot technology is:

1. Installer didn't paint it (as far as we know). Sand it and spray with engine paint, the only give away is the joints.
2. Installer went cheap on the filter.

If you do not have a kit available, it's DIY. Either eBay intercooler kit/ kn filter or home depot. We are lucky that is not the case.

Do your posts really have to lack a short answer SH DRIVER?
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The short answer is I don't know.

Yes : Most aftermarket intakes employ what I call Home Depot technology.
Im just wondering how you would know the "long answer" if you don't know "the short answer." And yes, I would probably agree about most aftermarket, especially no name, intakes. With the exception of K&N and AEM...both have been proven.
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The main logic used is less restriction equals more air. Problem is at slower rpm speeds the air is not traveling in the most efficient way. (google: cfd simulation) Now at higher rpm you want less restriction so the ram air intakes come into their element at the cost of some low end torque. The type s is designed with both areas in mind allowing the best average across the rpm range.
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The main logic used is less restriction equals more air. Problem is at slower rpm speeds the air is not traveling in the most efficient way. (google: cfd simulation) Now at higher rpm you want less restriction so the ram air intakes come into their element at the cost of some low end torque. The type s is designed with both areas in mind allowing the best average across the rpm range.
Great explanation. Not too long, not to vague, just to the point.
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