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Old 07-07-2011, 01:13 PM
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Hi to all, guys i know thiers should be a post around here for what i need but i have been really busy this week and dont have the time so i wanted to re-ask just in case, i need to rebuild my engine so i want to go all out, i want to gert more power so any suggestions i would really appreciate, this is my daily driver so maybe thats usefull info, i have some ideas but i would rather also get the ideas of all the cool ppl in this forum thanks
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it depends how much cash are you planning to put there
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wwll, i have some cash comming up so i guess kind of not holding back on money wise, but i dont want to add turbo yet
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what part of the motor are you rebuilding? for non turbo you need to build the motor to be high compression engine
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you said you don't ant to turbo yet? then don't do anything and wait until you're ready to. unless you want to go n/a
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Add a sh1t load of stickers. :) J/k lol but anyways did you do the basic intake/header/exhaust already? That way you can get more out of your build and it`s the best/cheaper way to start. What`s the hp range your aiming for?
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start with a type s intake, hytech replica header, a tune, and getting the head ported. since your planning on going turbo later, and want n/a power now i can NOT recomend getting pistons or cams. you could do the rods now as well as a catch can, msd ignition system, blueprint/complete balance, lightweight flywheel and a good solid clutch, a better intake manifold (euro R)

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start with a type s intake, hytech replica header, a tune, and getting the head ported. since your planning on going turbo later, and want n/a power now i can NOT recomend getting pistons or cams. you could do the rods now as well as a catch can, msd ignition system, blueprint/complete balance, lightweight flywheel and a good solid clutch, a better intake manifold (euro R)
how can you recommend NA header when/if hes going turbo later maybe? sounds like a useless buy.
and euro r intake manifold hype is kinda lame, you get almost same results with skunk2 which is also half of its price
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well he said he is rebuilding the motor so that have nothing to do with header intake exhaust.

OP you need to make up your mind if you are building for all motor or turbo
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well if you are going turbo, might as well start investing in turbo parts. ask a few who have turboed their stock blocks on what their recommendations are, there's knowledgeable people on this forum.
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well he said he is rebuilding the motor so that have nothing to do with header intake exhaust.

OP you need to make up your mind if you are building for all motor or turbo

This thread isn't going anywhere until this ^^^ question gets answered.

Are you planning to keep it N/A? Or are you planning on running turbo down the line? That will decipher your - Intake, Exhaust, Cams, Tune, Pistons, Rods, almost everything.

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sorry to all i could not log back all day, super busy, well yea i need to do engine work i have been told that maybe the piston rings so i want to try and get this engine some more power, ummmm i am looking into turbo so i do believe that getting my engine ready for that will be the priority, in ur guys opinion what would be more recommended for a daily driven car?

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Re: gain more power

Do you know how much money you are working with? Because if you can afford to sleeve the block you have a lot more options, and availability for higher horsepower.
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Do you know how much money you are working with? Because if you can afford to sleeve the block you have a lot more options, and availability for higher horsepower.
how much is for seelving?
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Anywhere between $1k-$2k without internals. You're looking at about 3 stacks with internals included (pistons, rods, bearings, etc etc) non including your turbo/tune set up.
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Anywhere between $1k-$2k without internals. You're looking at about 3 stacks with internals included (pistons, rods, bearings, etc etc) non including your turbo/tune set up.
hopefully ill have that cash aroun the begin of next year, so by then i can start buying the smaller stuff like pistons, rods, bearings, turbo stuff like that, i want to try and make a setup for turbo that can be a match for a toyota mr2 i think that is superchargered :P
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hopefully ill have that cash aroun the begin of next year, so by then i can start buying the smaller stuff like pistons, rods, bearings, turbo stuff like that, i want to try and make a setup for turbo that can be a match for a toyota mr2 i think that is superchargered :P
You can replace your stock internals, not sleeve the block, and run low PSI on a small to mid size turbo without having issues with blowing the motor up. Key is tuning by some one who is PROFESSIONAL.

Figure with stock internals, turbo, and minor motor work, you could be at right around 250-275whp, and you'll have a set up that it'll eat most cars on the street. I'd expect mid 13's out of a t3/t4 57 trim setup, with minor mods.

High horsepower or if you run a big turbo you are definitely going to need to do something with that crappy block.
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You can replace your stock internals, not sleeve the block, and run low PSI on a small to mid size turbo without having issues with blowing the motor up. Key is tuning by some one who is PROFESSIONAL.

Figure with stock internals, turbo, and minor motor work, you could be at right around 250-275whp, and you'll have a set up that it'll most cars on the street. I'd expect mid 13's out of a t3/t4 57 trim setup, with minor mods.

High horsepower or if you run a big turbo you are definitely going to need to do something with that crappy block.
so if i run on low psi i dont really need to sleeve the block, now the key here would be to find a very good tuner
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I'd probably hop on HT to find a tuner around the NM/CO area. I can't find anything really through google search but I kinda did it half assed.

But Yes, mid size turbo, low boost you'll have a decently reliable machine on brand new stock internals. I'd do a bit of research before you make any final decisions. Sounds like you are still pretty new to turbo set ups.
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I'd probably hop on HT to find a tuner around the NM/CO area. I can't find anything really through google search but I kinda did it half assed.

But Yes, mid size turbo, low boost you'll have a decently reliable machine on brand new stock internals. I'd do a bit of research before you make any final decisions. Sounds like you are still pretty new to turbo set ups.
You are 100% correct, still learing, i have been looking into the skunk camshafts,valves and stuff, though which would be good for pistons?
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J swap. LS1 swap. SWAP.

Let me know how it goes. I might need a rebuild soon if I don't swap so I'll probably throw some money into the engine :P
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IIRC you can't use forged pistons on an h22, so look for something cast. I know brian crower has N/A pistons (high compression) but I'm unsure as to what brands would have pistons for a turbo set up. A simple google search will probably help best.

I been outta the honda game for awhile, I'll help you as best I can with the knowledge I have. But I can tell you research, research research. Also, Neck (twokexlv6coupe) is a pretty knowledgeable guy. I'd read his sticky's and pm him if you are absolutely desperate for info.
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cp, je, wiesco for pistons. they all have a range of forged slugs available in different CR, but require the block to be resleeved.

Edit: Mahle make the only pistons that are suitable for use w/ the stock FRM sleeves.
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QUOTE=TypeT;543519]how can you recommend NA header when/if hes going turbo later maybe? sounds like a useless buy.
and euro r intake manifold hype is kinda lame, you get almost same results with skunk2 which is also half of its price[/QUOTE]

Hype? LMAO! pages and pages of dyno sheets proving that this is the best N/A IM is hype? do you talk out of your ass like old robby all the time? have you done ANY research to back that claim? skunk2 is WORTHLESSS for a N/A setup, and a complete waste of money. if you are turbo then skunk2 is a better IM option. Plenum size is where you are going to make power. the bigger the plenum the better for boost, the smaller plenum the better for n/a...

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Hi to all, guys i know thiers should be a post around here for what i need but i have been really busy this week and dont have the time so i wanted to re-ask just in case, i need to rebuild my engine so i want to go all out, i want to gert more power so any suggestions i would really appreciate, this is my daily driver so maybe thats usefull info, i have some ideas but i would rather also get the ideas of all the cool ppl in this forum thanks
Just copy GOD'S Prelude if your really serious and your either one of those rare individuals that have the skill, or the money to pay someone to pull it off :

ENGINE & ACCESSORIES + EXHAUST:
Port & polished race head - Flow rate 327 cfm
Crower ss .05mm oversized intake and exhaust valves, titanium retainers, and dual valve springs.
Crower adjustable cam gears and stage 3 cams.
Fully machined engine block - bored out = 2.3L
Darton iron ductile "wet" sleeves, Carillo connecting rods, weisco 11.5:1 pistons, all ARP studs on block, head and accessories.
Custom painted block and head (black). Powdercoated valvecover(also moon cut), p/s bracket.
Various parts and brakets painted and powdercoated.
Knife edged and micropolished crank, minus 6.5lbs from stock weight.
Skunk2 pro intake manifold, and hondata manifold gasket both port matched to the head.
AEM v2 intake and skunk2 68mm throttlebody.
RMF stainless header, obx highflow cat, greddy evo2 stainless exhaust(all port matched at 2 5/8").
Greddy extreme timing belt, NGK plugs and wires, spoon sports oil cap, koyo radiator cap, spoon sports magnetic drain bolts, spoon sports reservouir sleeves, Mugen thermostat, Energy suspension motor mount inserts, dc sports battery tie down, Koyo aluminum radiator, AEM fuel rail, AEM regulator, RC 550 peak and hold injectors, Walboro 255lph fuel pump. New bearings, gaskets seals, belts, waterpump, alternator, Cosmetic head gasket, new seals and gaskets all around.


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and euro r intake manifold hype is kinda lame
Its just a tool for those who want to be Euro sheik because its not tuned to work in sync with the H22a4 engines stock cam profile.I mean if it was so good, they would have installed in on the JDM Type S model.

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cp, je, wiesco for pistons. they all have a range of forged slugs available in different CR, but require the block to be resleeved.

Edit: Mahle make the only pistons that are suitable for use w/ the stock FRM sleeves.
Sorry this is the one thing I will have to disagree with you on. Do NOT run mahls. I have seen many many many piston meltdowns after as little as 30k miles. In theory and idea they are awesome. As a product they suck.

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Can you get single Mahle pistons? - Honda Prelude Forum .:.
Mahle Gold Series Pistons - Honda-Tech <--- post #9
Any luck with Mahle pistons? - Ford Mustang Forums : Corral.net Mustang Forum
^^^ mustang forum, but you get the idea. And that is just from page 1. I've been reading horror stories for years about mahls forged pistons. Ask neck what he thinks of them. He'll tell you the truth...

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Just copy GOD'S Prelude if your really serious and your either one of those rare individuals that have the skill, or the money to pay someone to pull it off :

ENGINE & ACCESSORIES + EXHAUST:
Port & polished race head - Flow rate 327 cfm
Crower ss .05mm oversized intake and exhaust valves, titanium retainers, and dual valve springs.
Crower adjustable cam gears and stage 3 cams.
Fully machined engine block - bored out = 2.3L
Darton iron ductile "wet" sleeves, Carillo connecting rods, weisco 11.5:1 pistons, all ARP studs on block, head and accessories.
Custom painted block and head (black). Powdercoated valvecover(also moon cut), p/s bracket.
Various parts and brakets painted and powdercoated.
Knife edged and micropolished crank, minus 6.5lbs from stock weight.
Skunk2 pro intake manifold, and hondata manifold gasket both port matched to the head.
AEM v2 intake and skunk2 68mm throttlebody.
RMF stainless header, obx highflow cat, greddy evo2 stainless exhaust(all port matched at 2 5/8").
Greddy extreme timing belt, NGK plugs and wires, spoon sports oil cap, koyo radiator cap, spoon sports magnetic drain bolts, spoon sports reservouir sleeves, Mugen thermostat, Energy suspension motor mount inserts, dc sports battery tie down, Koyo aluminum radiator, AEM fuel rail, AEM regulator, RC 550 peak and hold injectors, Walboro 255lph fuel pump. New bearings, gaskets seals, belts, waterpump, alternator, Cosmetic head gasket, new seals and gaskets all around.
That's largely a N/A build. Some of that will not apply to his build, for example the RMF header since he is planning on going turbo. And a lot of what you recommended is thousands upon thousands upon thousands. You can forget about spending money on painting the block, head, and ps bracket You can do that yourself with the motor out and high temp caliper paint. JUST MAKE SURE YOU WIRE WHEEL THE HELL OUT OF THE ENGINE. Also the spoon oil cap, koyo cap, magnetic drain bolts, spoon reservouir, and mugen thermostat are all for "Bling factor". Maybe they do have some advantage, but most of the OEM honda items will be sufficient. Also 11.5:1 is WAY too high of a compression ratio to run a turbo car. If you ran a turbo on that, you'd have to sleeve the motor, and you'd have to run race fuel even on the street just so it doesn't knock.

Also, the cam, rods, and pistons should be a bigger decision then most anything else. That will be the biggest components of your build.
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Sorry this is the one thing I will have to disagree with you on. Do NOT run mahls. I have seen many many many piston meltdowns after as little as 30k miles. In theory and idea they are awesome. As a product they suck.

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Can you get single Mahle pistons? - Honda Prelude Forum .:.
Mahle Gold Series Pistons - Honda-Tech <--- post #9
Any luck with Mahle pistons? - Ford Mustang Forums : Corral.net Mustang Forum
^^^ mustang forum, but you get the idea. And that is just from page 1. I've been reading horror stories for years about mahls forged pistons. Ask neck what he thinks of them. He'll tell you the truth...
didn't say to buy them, just said they're they only ones made to "work" with the FRM sleeves. I know the issues that have been posted about them, there are also people that use them and swear they're fine.
would I use them in my car? No.
People shouldn't take any suggestion in a forum as gospel, rather they should take the information and do the proper research and figure out what's best for them, their budget, their build. Not everyone is willing to spend thousands to sleeve a block, let them find out the hard way if they're not willing to do the research on their own.
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This is what i do i compare what i find from u guys that have more knowledege then me (duh :) noob here trying to learn) and research based on the info u provide so all this is very helpful in my end result decesion
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