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5th gen paperclip trick work?

Does the paperclip trick to read cel codes work with a 2000 prelude. If so how?
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Re: 5th gen paperclip trick work?

nope, you need an OBD2 code reader. either buy one, or go to advanced auto parts/autozone and they'll do it.
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Oh yeah 5th gen's OBD2.
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Re: 5th gen paperclip trick work?

lmao beat me to it. i was about to facepalm your ass!!
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lmao beat me to it. i was about to facepalm your ass!!
Haha. OBD2 sucks anyway. OBD1 FTW.
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uh you can def do the paperclip trick on a 5thy...

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Re: 5th gen paperclip trick work?

There is an OBD1 style jumper in the 5th gens. Chase the wires behind the OBD2 scanner port.
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Re: 5th gen paperclip trick work?

well then, i learned something new today!
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Re: 5th gen paperclip trick work?

For those who said you cant on a OBD2 is incorrect bc that's how I got my codes by using the paperclip method and thanx to the obd1 + obd2 app on my phone I can actually get to read the codes like they do at AUTO or any auto shop!!
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Yeah it does. I just did this a few weeks ago......
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Annnd then had the auto parts store read code.... same code both ways
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Re: 5th gen paperclip trick work?

OK, in that case, how do I do it? The plugs on the side of the center console do nothing and quite frankly, I have no idea how to chase those cables back. Any photos?? Particularily of the plug which I should be using the clip on?
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Just noticed the link + Photos above, I'm going to go out and see to it.
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Re: 5th gen paperclip trick work?

Yeah just loop the paper clip I think mines green passenger side under carpet thing. Hard to hold steady and turn accessory on. But it works. I recorded mine lol cause I'm slow and it was hard to count hold and stuff. Bahahah
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Re: 5th gen paperclip trick work?

Ok, so I failed pretty hard. Didn't realize that blue piece was just a bracket of some sort. Removed the blue plug from the blue bracket and got my code. thanks again, lovin this site lol :)
Gave me 6 long blinks and 1 short, I think haha. Time to find out the damage...
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Crap, O2
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Re: 5th gen paperclip trick work?

^^^ easy fix. but they not too cheap lol

and in the future instead of goin through all that "paper-clip" hassle just roll up at ur autoparts store.. majority read them for u for "$ free.99" ha
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haha ok. Just out of curiousity, anyone know how to tell which O2 sensor is bad? there are two, correct?
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Re: 5th gen paperclip trick work?

how to video by yours truely...

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oooops, didnt read the whole thread...shamless plug none the less...

op, bank 1 O2 or bank 2???
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Re: 5th gen paperclip trick work?

I'm not sure if I want to answer your question for fear of breaking the golden "rules." I have no clue if it is bank 1 or bank 2, hence my question. However, if code 61 - primary o2 sensor, refers to one of the two banks, I suppose I've got it figured out. Nevermind.

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oooops, didnt read the whole thread...shamless plug none the less...

op, bank 1 O2 or bank 2???
correct me if im wrong, but only v6 and v8 have 2 banks (and 2 sensors on each one). on the in-line 4 cyl. its upstream (before cat.) or downstream (after cat.) o2 sensors..
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before cat is bank 1, after cat is bank 2
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yup. i do this paperclip thing all the time. for some reason my 4ws light comes on everytime i drive my car long distances in the rain, must be a naked wire or something, but its an easy fix once u know how. It actually works to my advantage because 4ws is crap in the rain anyway.
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For those who said you cant on a OBD2 is incorrect bc that's how I got my codes by using the paperclip method and thanx to the obd1 + obd2 app on my phone I can actually get to read the codes like they do at AUTO or any auto shop!!
I know, I downloaded the free app "torque" on my droid and I bought the bluetooth adapter that plugs into the OBDII port on Amazon for $25 and it works awesome!!! I can read code, read definitions of codes, clear check engine lights/codes, check readyness monitors to see if it will pass emissions, It will display live data for tons of different things like, RPM, throttle position, coolant temp, o2 sensor voltages- (to see if they are switching from high to low and check if the sensor is really bad or not), fuel trim, it even has a turbo timer. I highly recommend it for anyone with a smart phone iphone/droid!! It works awesome and does everything a $200 scanner will do for $25! It also comes with a disc so you can download the program to your laptop and then you can read, clear check engine light codes and read live data right from your laptop.
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correct me if im wrong, but only v6 and v8 have 2 banks (and 2 sensors on each one). on the in-line 4 cyl. its upstream (before cat.) or downstream (after cat.) o2 sensors..
Correct. or sometimes called sensor 1 (before cat) or sensor 2 (post cat)
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before cat is bank 1, after cat is bank 2
Wrong. bank one refers to the side of the engine that cylinder # 1 is located on. Bank 2 refers the other head that cylinder 1 is not in. This is usually for V6, V8's etc, but it works the same for a 4 cylinder Subaru with 2 cylinders per bank.

So for example.....If the code was reading for a faulty sensor for Bank one Sensor Two, that would mean the side with cylinder one and the sensor after the cat.
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Re: 5th gen paperclip trick work?

buy one o2 sensor. replace sensor. clear code, and run car for 5-10 minutes. if the code comes back, then its sensor 2 thats bad, if it stays away, well then sensor 1 was the bad egg
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^^^that's the way to do it if you are lazy and money isn't and option (if you don't care about dishing out an extra $150+ for an extra part you never needed in the first place) and don't care about fixing it right the first time.
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