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Hey PZ! so im a new member here (been on about 4 days now) but hey- i thnk its gonna be the start of a beautiful relationship . so i bought myself a 97 Lude type SH and shes far from perfect. The guy i bought it from got his front end from the buper to the radiatior support essentially torn off. ive put some junk parts on it for a temporary fit but it is still gruesome. (pics to come). Well i started this thread with the purpose of showing how im gonna repair the front as well as throwing my questions for help up as i go along. I do need alot of parts so if your near NY and you have a lude with..

1. radiator support. (mines pretty bent.)
2.bumper (the structural part)
3.hood (self explainatory)

thats about what i need. I dont think this project should be stupid amounts of difficult but who knows. I will post some pics of the damage in a few hours or later today.
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Re: Rebuilding my front end- Input welcome

The car a rebuilt title? Good luck. I also had my front end pretty wrecked. They bent the support bar at the front back together and then put a new bumper. Hope to see some pics of your car soon:) Welcome to the Prelude family.
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Re: Rebuilding my front end- Input welcome

i did this. let me tell ya the drilling of the welds was fun. but pretty straight forward. just line everything up and test fit EVERYTHING
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Re: Rebuilding my front end- Input welcome

So heres what im up against, a nonexistent bumper and a pushed in radiator mount. its a whole bag full of SUCK. but im sure I can fix it with a lil determination and deep pockets. LOL! im planning on buying a hood today brand new (FOR 150$ SCORE!) and i may go get a welder today too. either way, its alot better then the 2200$ the body shop quoted me on... but at least i got a printout of allll the parts i need for free. with diagrams. SUCKAS.

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Re: Rebuilding my front end- Input welcome

That honestly doesn't look too bad, do you have a better picture of the entire front end?

You may just need a bumper support and bend some things back.
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Re: Rebuilding my front end- Input welcome

that zip tie is sketchy.

i messed up my front end. had to replace my: hood, bumper, bumper support, core support, upper tie bar. healights. hood latch, radiator, radiator fans, and get it painted. runs good though
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UPDATE! Got a new hood last night! Made all the diffrence in the world! It looks decent now... It looks like im gonna be using my old radiator support but i wont know for sure till i take off my front bumper plastics later today. Pics when i get to my laptop (im on my iphone. The big question i have tho is how do the headlights bolt up? Mine just sit there floppin in the breeze :(
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Oh and another interesting bit... I know my lude is a type sh... Verified thru honda by the vin. But theres no atts light when i turn my key on and some random kid told me the atts unit isnt in my car when he stopped and chatted me up anout my car. Im not inclined to believe him however, it is odd that no light pops on when i turn on my key. Hmm. but anyhow, heres the new hood. my last one had more waves then the atlantic ocean so this was a major improvement visually.

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Re: Rebuilding my front end- Input welcome

There are 3 bolts on the headlights, top - left - right. You'll see them clearly once you remove the bumper cover (plastic piece everyone calls bumper)
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Re: Rebuilding my front end- Input welcome

UPDATE! its been forever, but heres the progress ive made so far

Car went to the frame machine and got straightened out.
car got a new driver side fender,
New VIS racing carbon fiber hood.
New Sonar Headlights
Radiator support is straightened out
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Re: Rebuilding my front end- Input welcome

So heres where im at now...
Id like to rebuild some of my motor. it currently has 98,000 miles on it (plenty of life left) but ive never rebuilt a motor in my life and im feeling quite overwhelmed. I have no idea where to even begin. Ive got a budget of 3000$ and Id like the most bang for my buck. Im not opposed to Finding secondhand parts if i can score a deal. can anyone give me some advice where to go next? just a recap, heres what ive got so far.
DC header (ive heard these are junk)
2.5 in stainless steel exhaust
AEM intake with K&N filter
greddy stage II clutch
premium plugs and 8mm wires
after that, Im pretty clueless. LOL
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Re: Rebuilding my front end- Input welcome

With that low mileage - just make sure it's not leaking oil first.

If it is, just replace those seals.

From there - go over your suspension components to make sure they're all in good shape.


Make sure the car is reliable before deciding to dump money into the motor - under 100k miles, i would think it's running fine to the point where it'd be a waste to mess with any internals.

Good header (vibrant)
3" custom exhaust (your choice of resonators and muffler)
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wheels/tires

just mild things. If you do not know for a fact if you have the ATTS unit still or not, you're limited to what you can do anyway until you verify wether it is really there or not.
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Re: Rebuilding my front end- Input welcome

Ok cool. solid advice. I just replaced my wheel bearings (forgot to mention that) lol its for sure not leaking oil but it sure does like to burn it up! but ive just started using a lucasoil addiitive and so far so good. And ive brought my car over to honda- shes got her ATTS. praise jeebus.
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Re: Rebuilding my front end- Input welcome

Our motors are known to burn 1 quart every oil change on average. So it's no worry unless you're burning alot more than that and smoking like crazy lol.


SH 'ludes require different suspension components as well as exhausts - so choose carefully for what you buy to make sure they fit your car. The motor has a tq limit as long as you have that ATTS unit installed. Doubtful you'll hit that limit unless you intend to boost in the future.
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Hey guys! more updates and more questions. :D Story of my life. SO I just purchased a SiR spec motor form a 5th gen prelude with 23K miles on it. 700$. EFFIN SCORE. So now that Ive changed my pants from all that excitement Im left with a few options. But heres my general plan of attack. I think im gonna take advantage of this new motor and buy some nasty upgrades for it. Brian crower stage 2 camshaft anyone? :D Im also thinking about adding some BOOST! buuuut im not sure. My goal is 300+ HP on PUMP gas. not sure if this is feasible or not because ive heard mixed opinions on if this is realistic or not without forged internals and sleeved block and the like. Its worth noting that this is my first engine build of any kind but i plan on installing all the parts myself because im good with a wrench, I have a clean shop and im very detail oriented. I think I can do it. If anyone has advice, Id sure like to hear it. Thanks! Raven.
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Where did you get the motor for $700??? 300hp is pretty high your going to be putting in a lot of work haha
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My buddy Is selling it to me. :) so at least i know its legit. and 300 HP does not seem too far fetched. I was reading an article about a 600 HP honda s2000 and I think that all things considered 300 does not seem to be way off the mark. could be wrong though. But hey at least im starting with 220 horses to begin with :D
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My buddy Is selling it to me. :) so at least i know its legit. and 300 HP does not seem too far fetched. I was reading an article about a 600 HP honda s2000 and I think that all things considered 300 does not seem to be way off the mark. could be wrong though. But hey at least im starting with 220 horses to begin with :D
300 hp comes out to around 270-280 whp. I bet that s2k you saw was boosted, they can reach crazy numbers on a stock block.

If you're going boost - easy goal.

If you're going N/A.... well.... have fun with that lol
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Problem with that is the more boost I put the higher octane fuel I must use to prevent detonation. So the question is... What's the sweet spot?
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