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Old 06-10-2011, 11:10 PM
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Tire Rotation

Hey how do you diy guys rotate your tires?

Reason I'm asking is that I rotated my tires the other day in the way that is labeled as the way for "front-wheel drive vehicles" in this photo.
http://www.tyrepower.com.au/Assets/c...ge001_0005.gif

My problem with this is that it makes my wheels look funny. I have the stock blades. On each side the wheels are slanted opposite of each other, instead of slanting together like they were before. It bugs the hell out of me every time I see them.

Comments? I hope I'm as clear as mud so you guys can picture what I'm talking about...
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Never, never NEVER cross radial tyres over like that. Front tyres go on the rear, rears go on the front.

That's an old school method of ensuring even tyre wear on cross ply tyres.




Unless the rest of the directions state that the tyres are to come off the rims, in which case that would be ok (as the direction of rotation on the road remains the same). And yes, the stock blades look dumb when they don't point the same way. (I know they don't point the same way in my sig pic, but they're my race tyres, so they're rarely on...and it was the stupid tyre shop that messed them up)
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Re: Tire Rotation

You can cross them brash..military does it as well with all vehicles we also flip on rim with some..but it looks slanted because the tread is mostly cooked on one side of the tire.
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Re: Tire Rotation

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Never, never NEVER cross radial tyres over like that. Front tyres go on the rear, rears go on the front.

That's an old school method of ensuring even tyre wear on cross ply tyres.


Unless the rest of the directions state that the tyres are to come off the rims, in which case that would be ok (as the direction of rotation on the road remains the same). And yes, the stock blades look dumb when they don't point the same way. (I know they don't point the same way in my sig pic, but they're my race tyres, so they're rarely on...and it was the stupid tyre shop that messed them up)
You can do the cross as long as you don't have directional tires. There is no reason why you can't, though a simple front to back, back to front would suffice. Even with the blades facing different directions it doesn't make much difference. Sure the design of the blades do help in cooling the brakes off, but the benefits are minimal, and not a necessity.

And the "Cross Ply" tires you are talking about are called "Bias Ply" where they criss-cross, compared to radials which are side by side in their plies. But there are major differences besides that (I run bias ply tires on my trucks)

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You can cross them brash..military does it as well with all vehicles we also flip on rim with some..but it looks slanted because the tread is mostly cooked on one side of the tire.
Yep, military uses bias-ply tires. But military tires are a whole notha' ball game. When you run "Beadlocks" which basically lock the tire to the rim. You'll have funny wear patterns often, and sometimes even driving on the road can be completely dangerous. Military trucks/tires (or offroad bias ply tires like on lifted trucks) on the street are a 100% completely different ball game than anything else.
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Re: Tire Rotation

not all of the military vehicles run with beadlock..only special purpose vehicles have them..majority of the blue fleet normal cars and trucks are just normal rims and tires. but it all works out in the end as long as you can get that extra life out of the tyres to get your money worth.
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not all of the military vehicles run with beadlock..only special purpose vehicles have them..majority of the blue fleet normal cars and trucks are just normal rims and tires. but it all works out in the end as long as you can get that extra life out of the tyres to get your money worth.
So you're saying with just military vehicles the tires end up getting worn on 1-side and have to be flipped on the rim? Sounds like our Guvment needs some maintenance on their fleet vehicles then...
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Re: Tire Rotation

yeah just do a straight front to back , the blade rims are a directional rim ( help better air flow to the brakes for cooling )
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Re: Tire Rotation

I don't know the difference between radial verses bias ply tires, and after trying google and wikipedia, I'm still pretty confused. Right now I have Hankook Ventus HR2 tires on the two back tires and Kumho Ecsta ASX tires on the front two (after I did the front wheel drive rotation as directed in the linked photo). These came with the car when I bought it back in January.
The Hankooks have an arrow pointing in the forward direction right now so I'm guessing they're ok the way they are since I just moved them straight back from where they used to be in the front. The Kumho's don't have an arrow that I can see, but I have a feeling I need to switch them again so they will be on their original sides.
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You can do the cross as long as you don't have directional tires. There is no reason why you can't, though a simple front to back, back to front would suffice.
I worked as a tyre fitter briefly, and this is contrary to information given to me then. Additionally, my father whose been a mechanic for 30 years thinks this way. But whatever, I suppose there isn't any reason as to why you couldn't. I guess it also comes down to that I've only had directional tyres for nearly 10 years now.

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And the "Cross Ply" tires you are talking about are called "Bias Ply" where they criss-cross, compared to radials which are side by side in their plies. But there are major differences besides that (I run bias ply tires on my trucks)
Never heard them called that before, but then again you guys have different names for everything. You even have your own spelling for the word "metre" despite it being a measurement you don't use. We'll never agree on this.

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Military trucks/tires (or offroad bias ply tires like on lifted trucks) on the street are a 100% completely different ball game than anything else.
Agreed. Truck tyres are designed to do a totally different job to car tyres. And most trucks would run cross ply tyres, while radial tyres in the general market place (read: cars) are a rarity these days. (I must note that many drag racing tyres are a cross ply design, though this is a specialist application, not unlike a truck or heavy transport application; but I digress)
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front to back, back to front, done. have a beer
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Never heard them called that before, but then again you guys have different names for everything. You even have your own spelling for the word "metre" despite it being a measurement you don't use. We'll never agree on this.
Ya very true about the "Metre" thing.

And I guess it was kind of selfish of me to assume that you guys would have the same name. Its that Amurrrrkan in me that assumes you guys follow what we do. I'm leaving here soon anyway. It's fallin to chit.

But Bias Ply (Cross Ply) tires ALWAYS have to be criss-crossed, maybe thats what you were thinking of when you said "Never cross radials" Ionno, but front to back is sufficient, anything else is extra effort. I'm with Nick on this one...
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'ts all good mate. Once again, Neck has simplified the entire thread with a comment that we all agree on.
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